@vincent.cantin Been there..., also new to clojure and first watched all of the talks on om-next and started learning it 🙂 . From what I understand om-next is conceptually awesome but it was never the intent to be "the next big framework" it's way to flexible, d nolen has a lot of projects that he's working on and om-next was meant to be more of a "blueprint" for people to use as a starting-point for there own "fulcro". Unless you want your appstate to be something like datascript, fulcro seems like a better overall there are a lot of libraries like forms, routing, co-located css, db inspect, etc... not to mention the fact that the model is a lot better (no read parsers, support for pessimistic updates). As for the learning curve you also have a video series for getting started.