Clojurians Log v2

granted I have used firefox since probably its inception, so I guess I have no ability to gauge its speed relative to others, but if you're looking for firefox-like browsers, you might check out librewolf

it bundles uBlock Origin in the build and does some tweaks to privacy settings that are mostly non-intrusive

I use uBlock Origin, but in Microsoft Edge. I hope Microsoft don't drop support for it. Do you have a link to anything about Chrome and uBlock Origin?

Never mind... found a bunch of articles about it...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/chromes-manifest-v3-and-its-changes-for-ad-blocking-are-coming-real-soon/

there's a fork of uBlock that I think still works with all this

According to https://www.pcworld.com/article/2595287/ublock-origin-is-officially-dead-for-chrome-but-ad-blockers-live-on.html you can use uBlock Origin Lite and then tweak its settings to make it more aggressive...

I moved from chrome back to firefox a few years ago and frankly I didn’t notice any performance difference. And nowadays I couldn’t imagine using a browser without an ad blocker. It’s also popular enough that when I need some extension (ex passorwd manager or other) I am not left on my own or having to use some prototype grade solution.

yeah, I don't feel that librewolf is noticeably different than chrome when it comes to performance, but I am not a frequent user of anything else so hard to say for sure

it feels "fast enough"

I guess ymmv, I know benchmarks can give a different perspective but in real life usage it’s more than fine

MS Edge add-ons (their own extension store):

> it also pointed me to http://kagi.com in general. I tried the search, it's pretty good. I've been using Kagi Search for a couple years, it does a good job. The only time I find myself falling back on google (using the !g https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/bangs.html) is for business listings and some of the search widgets. Two features that I have appreciated most are the https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/lenses.html which allow you to easily filter results (i.e. forum search, pdf search, academic search, or custom) and https://help.kagi.com/kagi/settings/personalized-results.html which makes it really easy to change how certain sites rank.

I'm waiting for the Orion release on Linux to try that out, I currently use Vivaldi.

I'm in the "I use firefox, and can't notice a perf difference between browsers" camp. Even my old $200 laptop I bought to have something cheap I could take notes in uni back in the day ran FF like a champ.

I use Brave for sites that are very annoying without adblocker in chrome

I'm in the "I use firefox, and can't notice a perf difference between browsers" camp.I also don't feel speed differences, I've used various Chromium and Firefox-based browsers and other than differences in startup time I've never had anything stand out as consistently noticeably slower.

The only exception I've encountered is Vivaldi, which has some areas that are noticeably slow, but its still minor enough that I've continued to use it for multiple years and don't feel the need to switch.

My default browser is LibreWolf (it is Firefox-based) these days. I very infrequently switch to a different browser when needed.

I considered Edge, but it sounds like they also plan to sunset Manifest V2 soon. Though I could not find perfect clarity. uBlock Lite is an alternative, but it has limitations it seems, though unclear in practice what that means. I like the idea of a search that's not based on ad revenue and in general an internet that's not designed around engagement metrics and what not. Where I can customize the filter/ranking/recommendation algos to my liking, and not too someone's profit optimized variant. So gonna give Kagi a try for that.

25$ dollar for ad-free search and access to all top models in chat seems pretty decent of a deal.

I've moved from Chrome to Firefox exactly because of the manifest issue. And I also got somewhat tired of all the new features in Chrome that end up being cosmetic noise that I then spend time to look up how to turn it off. And now I can't live without the vertical tab panel. Although I imagine there are Chromium-based browsers that also have it. Have also been using Kagi for around half a year, really like it. I use the 10$ sub, plenty enough for me.

Ya, I'll try their search, and am using their browser for now, liking it so far, it also offers vertical tab option, UX is modern and clean. If I don't like it, I'll switch to Firefox

I'm using Firefox with Ghostery and I'm pretty happy with it.

It blocked 3 trackers on this very slack page. 😜

Orion claims to block all tracking. Is ghostery like adguard? And like creates a fake network adapter?

Kagi are working on a Linux version of Orion btw. And they still have a goal of having a Windows version but I’m guessing that’s a few years out still.

🦁

I've been using Firefox for many years, but recently switched to Vivaldi and I'm loving that most things can be configured to my liking (which was the Opera philosophy as well, I guess).

I’ve mained Orion since they made it available. Still have to use Chrome for dev work but 🤷‍♂️ Many ads are blocked at DNS level with NextDNS. Filtered on the router, to also stop eg. my TV from calling home to deliver spy reports. Because the modern internet truly is a Thielian hellscape.

@didibus not sure about the internals of Ghostery, as long as it works, I don't really care. It's an extension in Firefox and it is also available for other browsers.