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I finally bought an Apple Silicon based Mac (MacBook Pro early 2023, used, with M2 Pro processor). Had been using a 2019 Intel-based Mac until now. I am understanding now the raving folks were doing on the performance differences. Quite noticeable.
When I first got mine I had to install the Intel version of VSCode and used it like that for a year until I remembered to upgrade to the silicon version...
noticing the startup perf difference was like someone stepping off my foot
I've also run a few compute-intensive things on it, and have yet to hear any fans kick on, the way they did for the same tasks on the 2019-Intel-Mac.
Yeah I’ve never heard the fans come on in mine, and the battery seems to last for eternity. My 2019 was the absolute opposite.
the heat management is soooooo much better
My previous machine was a 2018 MacBook Pro. It overheated all the time, keys stopped working, the battery didn't last very long and the lack of function keys never stopped being an inconvenience. I bought an M1 Pro the first week they came out. Best machine I've ever owned by miles. It fixes all the issues that I had with my old machine and it's still going strong. I can still spend most of the day working on battery without having to worry about it. Back in 2018, I was worried that the Mac was no longer a strategic product for Apple and that they'd never be good again. I'm so happy that I was wrong.
Just curious, what sort of hardware were you running Linux on + what sort of Mac do you have?
and I can't stand Apple's esoteric choice of keeping programs running ad daemons yet cmd tab can select them
Ouch… (I guess I’ve been using a Mac for so long that I’ve become habituated to the above)
I’ve been using 2018 model for 5 years- such a pita, especially the last 2 years. I wanna buy a new model with a few months; anybody knows if M3 is worth it?
compared to a 2018 model absolutely
compared to an m2 probably not
compared to an m1 maybe
but I guess it depends on what you do and how valuable a laptop that's fast and doesn't overheat is to you
…and how valuable it is to be able to use the laptop on battery for many many hours without worrying about having to plug it in 😺
that, too. I forget people do that
I’ve massively got in the habit of just working from wherever without worrying about plugging the laptop in… on the train, relaxing on the sofas at work, in a cafe for several hours… it’s almost got to the point where my laptop is like my phone and I only charge it at night. Not quite though, it needs a charge at lunchtime as well.
Wondering about M2 vs M3 with respect to performance/price. Running on battery for very long time is not critical for me. But I do want a machine that I can keep usimg for 5+ years and not suffer
@UK0810AQ2 happened with me too, last job asked me to use a mac... ... I ended up installing Linux on a VM because I could not stand the esoteric stuff of Apple. Worked better than I though, although I woul prefer to just use Linux bare-metal
One thing that worries me is if things break. I live on a very humid place, and I heard this might short the SSD because of the way it was engineered in M1 and M2 (and if things go wrong here, I don't think I can find a place to fix it for a reasonable price)
@UK0810AQ2 "WHY DO I HAVE TO WAIT 3 SECONDS FOR A TERMINAL TO OPEN, APPLE?" Do you mean that when you open Apple's http://Terminal.app, it takes 3 seconds for the terminal window to appear and be ready to use? I have never seen anything like that long (well under 1/4 sec for me -- fast enough I don't notice). The only exception I can recall is on a system where I had some fancy prompt generation bash scripts that ran a bunch of 'git' and 'hg' commands before generating each prompt, but things sped up when I disabled those.
@U0CMVHBL2 nothing fancy with the prompt, and I'm not a fan of the default terminal because it's worse than xterm so I usually use iTerm. Importantly I'm complaining about cold start, not time to open a window for a daemonized app
I got m1 max 32gb, 1tb, 16 inches for something like 2300$ and it absolutely worth it. It's running circles around my maxxed out Intel 2019 mac I had. I took M1 for a ski workation and managed to put 11 hours over 5 days of clojure + repl programming on a battery with 30% to spare. Intel was barely getting 2-3 hours. The only downside that the aluminium body is suuuuuuuper cold on a chilly winter morning and you don't get an Intel's signature 3 seconds lap burn-TM. 🙂
@UK0810AQ2 just checked on a standard terminal with a cold start -> it's probably 200ms for cold start if not less. Almost instant. Looks like something with iTerm
Sergey, you make a good point. My M1 Mac doesn't keep my fingers warm on a cold day like my Intel Mac did. :-)