Oh, yay!!

Wow, that went fast! In my head, Clojure is still 10 years old. I guess I've been into Clojure for a while now 😂

That really went fast, I also remember the Effective Programs talk like it was yesterday. Congrats everyone.

FYI we will have a online meetup next week to celebrate, details to come soon!

We had a small get together yesterday with cake and there will be a post with some pictures and stuff at some point iiuc

I remember the 10th birthday cake!!

Tuxedo computers seem best-in-class, 100% will be getting one when I can

I hadn't seen this HP laptop before. Looks darn near ideal for me at those specs and price point

The display might be its weak point but I'm mostly using an external monitor anyways. I'm curious to see the other responses to this

@U9J50BY4C I heard about it a few months back and have had eyes on it since. Heard about some gripes with the track pad I think? But overall it seems nice.

A somewhat related data point - somewhat recently I got myself an HP laptop (a different one) and was blown away by the videos they have on it on their official channel. They have instructions on how to disassemble it and replace any component there.

While I'd really like to go with a System76, Framework, Tuxedo or other Linux-first laptop next, I've been using Linux on Dell laptops for the last 12 years with great success. Current one is a Latitude 7490.

@U043RSZ25HQ > Tuxedo computers seem best-in-class Don't buy with Nvidia GPU though. I have Tuxedo Stellaris 15 gen3 and if I use it without battery then it can't last more than 3-4 hours. Also external displays don't work with CPU graphics so no Wayland for me as I must run Xorg via Nvidia driver. I have AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with GeForce RTX 3070 Mobile and Nouveau can't work on this card yet (probably need to wait several years for this to happen). Reverse prime doesn't work for Wayland too, only for Xorg. This is because their motherboard is wired in this way and CPU isn't connected to external screen. I.e. tuxedo computers say these laptops are for machine learning but in fact they don't support to run CPU-only graphics via external screen. So it's just a basic gaming laptop that's built like a tower PC in laptop chassis. i.e. you can't not use Nvidia gpu and run external screen. You're forced to use it. I can't recommend anything with GPU from them. On the plus side I can open it up and add RAM, HDD or other stuff (not soldered as it's a Tongfang generic chassis). But their support sucks really bad. Also my laptop only has ISO keyboard so that's not good. I don't like it. And support doesn't care.

I’m using a framework and it’s been a little weird

@U3BALC2HH In what way?

Lots of little papercuts. For instance, minimum Ubuntu version is 21 (hardware doesn't work with 20.04 LTS). That caused some issues, initially. I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 when it came out, but I like the cinnamon desktop, and lots of little issues with the UI there. Little issues around when it goes into standby mode sometimes it acts like its dead and you have to hold the power button down for like 30 seconds to turn it off, then it flashes a bunch of weird lights, and 1/3 times you hold the power button for 30 seconds it will come back on -- or sometimes you need to pop open the back and reset some firmware thingy or replace some battery or whatever. (so I disabled hibernation/standby/whatever and all that went away). I was struggling to put FDE on here -- not sure that I was successful so not going to take it with me through the airport, etc. There are plenty of upsides to a framework and EVERY problem I mentioned HAS a solution -- but I already run linux, manage an emacs config, have infrastructure to worry about, etc, and the last thing I wanted was a flaky laptop. Also note I got a very early DIY model so your mileage may vary heavily. Just sharing my experience with it

I should also note though that the team is very responsive and the community is great, and the repairability and upgradeability is awesome.

So to be fair I didn't say bad I said weird. It's like doubling down on the Linux experience -- more control, but more stuff to debug

One other thing, integrated GPU not useful for anything ML/DL related if you do any scientific computing. But it's been great for webdev.

> integrated GPU not useful for anything ML/DL related Yes, but when you don't have mux circuitry (as in my laptop) then you also lose out on Wayland and CPU graphics for desktop rendering which IMO works better in most cases.

yeah good point, just wanted to share my full experience w/it