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mpenet03:09:25

Matrix is pretty good too. Bridging slack/irc is also available. It's also used by some large groups (govs, mozilla, etc), via riot/element.io

borkdude10:09:52

Is there anyone here running macOS < 10.11 (El Capitan)? Just curious

orestis11:09:05

That would be seriously old @borkdude — I got away by staying on Sierra/High Sierra for a few years, was too busy to upgrade 🙂

borkdude11:09:44

OK. I set 10.11 as the minimum version for babashka. 10.10 didn't work. I guess that's ok then.

borkdude11:09:43

Oh, I guess I could even make it 10.13 as 10.12 is already EOL

Mno11:09:41

I just checked an my “routing” computer is at 10.11.5

Mno11:09:13

but I don’t think anyone would use an un-updated 2009 macbook pro as a development thing (docker doesn’t run easily on that either)

telekid12:09:37

I just accidentally :w'd in the #announcements channel, and it was deleted in less than two seconds 😆 was that automation or an admin??? impressive

seancorfield17:09:05

@borkdude I'm still on 10.12 FYI. I'm tired of Apple breaking my dev env every time I upgrade, so I never moved on from 10.12 😐

borkdude17:09:30

that's EOL now :)

seancorfield17:09:48

I know. brew squawks at me every time I install something. But macOS upgrades have always been horribly painful for me with Apple just deciding to randomly break stuff (or even delete user files in the past!).

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borkdude17:09:40

Last couple of upgrades everything pretty much just worked for me

borkdude17:09:54

Though I had the brew problem a couple of years ago

borkdude17:09:58

@seancorfield I'm very curious though, could I get you to try a bb binary that's compiled with targeting minimal 10.13 at your 10.12 system just to see if it crashes?

borkdude17:09:24

(ex: $ bb '(+ 1 2 3)')

borkdude17:09:15

Xcode 12 still support back to 10.11 so I could lower the number if there's actually people using bb on these older systems

seancorfield17:09:06

Downloading...

seancorfield17:09:55

It runs without complaint on 10.12.

seancorfield17:09:22

(I don't use bb so I would only be affected if clj-kondo stopped running on 10.12)

borkdude17:09:38

yeah for clj-kondo it's the same thing. thanks for testing!