This page is not created by, affiliated with, or supported by Slack Technologies, Inc.
2020-05-14
Channels
- # announcements (3)
- # aws (7)
- # babashka (108)
- # beginners (222)
- # bristol-clojurians (3)
- # calva (8)
- # chlorine-clover (1)
- # cider (14)
- # clj-kondo (4)
- # cljdoc (6)
- # cljs-dev (89)
- # cljsrn (13)
- # clojars (6)
- # clojure (89)
- # clojure-australia (1)
- # clojure-europe (11)
- # clojure-italy (9)
- # clojure-losangeles (11)
- # clojure-nl (6)
- # clojure-spec (2)
- # clojure-sweden (1)
- # clojure-uk (9)
- # clojurescript (47)
- # conjure (18)
- # datomic (7)
- # docker (1)
- # figwheel (43)
- # figwheel-main (2)
- # fulcro (31)
- # kaocha (3)
- # leiningen (7)
- # luminus (2)
- # nrepl (14)
- # off-topic (24)
- # pathom (5)
- # pedestal (5)
- # rdf (4)
- # re-frame (49)
- # reagent (12)
- # reitit (9)
- # rum (21)
- # shadow-cljs (109)
- # tools-deps (35)
- # vim (8)
- # wasm (1)
ruby is up there, I'd expect that, but was not expecting javascript to be so high (or rust so low)
How nice and confirming! @zdot101 well if you look at the bars the main differences between scala and haskell are the "interesting" width if i'm looking at it right
Interesting indeed. Pretty much every sentiment analysis I've seen has ranked Clojure #1 or very near the top. I'm actually surprised to see Scala so high up (I did Scala for about 18 months before coming to Clojure so my view is colored by the awful 2.7 -> 2.8 migration).
@cameron I feel like a lot of the negative sentiment around JS is pretty outdated. Modern JS is actually really rad IMO.
Well, my reasoning was not 'javascript is bad so it should be at the bottom like php', just as I actually wouldn't even say that about php anymore -- modern php likewise has matured. But javascript here is ranking above haskell, golang , python , and rust -- all languages I'd expect to generate more hype (in their respective subreddits). Then again, I do wonder if quantity was accounted for, as javascript would likely dwarf everyone else in userbase (just checked, for instance, and Javascript has almost a million subscribers, almost twice the amount python has). I italicized python because to me, python would be the language in that list I would expect to compete the most directly with js -- and win -- in being that sort of dynamic, taught-to-beginners, 'vanilla' languages (although they aren't 100% competitors -- javascript is much more liberal, a little weird even, and python conservative)
certainly no one needs language bashing anywhere, especially not here, it's not proper to talk down on other languages, each has its own niche anyway that said, the committee driven design shows on JS. on the other hand, I've come to cljs recently exactly because I don't see my future in js, despite being expert in it because all JS work is either ā¢ node js ā¢ typescript ā¢ exclusively some framework There is no one who expects you to just write simple js nowadays, everyone is looking for something more - because of typescript and react native and similar projects that extend the language beyond its initial scope. So I figured, if I have to switch to something that compiles to js, I know a language that fits my own needs better.
I am getting tired of frameworks personally. It feels like all the important decisions have been made for me a lot of the time and that's just less satisfying compared to my embedded C++ days... Certainly don't want to go back to C++ though lol
I want to control the whole stack, frameworks are too limited. But sometimes it makes sense to be able to call in 10 more people from bench who already know the architecture
from https://www.lightbend.com/blog/how-scala-compares-20-programming-languages-reddit-analysis
Hahaha awesome
No doubt, JS went from alerts to very concise function notation two decades later, so there's probably a lot of aged material in the archive. I find myself being less and less able to read javascript out of the box as time goes on š
gotta date the js like vintage wine
It probably doesn't help that there's also CoffeeScript and TypeScript which look more or less like JS... I used to hate CS when I first encountered it but I've sort of gotten used to it now, as the init script for Atom.
CoffeeScript is just odd to me, I understand where it came from and what gap it was filling at the time, but now it just feels like its superseded by what is now in JavaScript
Well, my reasoning was not 'javascript is bad so it should be at the bottom like php', just as I actually wouldn't even say that about php anymore -- modern php likewise has matured. But javascript here is ranking above haskell, golang , python , and rust -- all languages I'd expect to generate more hype (in their respective subreddits). Then again, I do wonder if quantity was accounted for, as javascript would likely dwarf everyone else in userbase (just checked, for instance, and Javascript has almost a million subscribers, almost twice the amount python has). I italicized python because to me, python would be the language in that list I would expect to compete the most directly with js -- and win -- in being that sort of dynamic, taught-to-beginners, 'vanilla' languages (although they aren't 100% competitors -- javascript is much more liberal, a little weird even, and python conservative)