Which libraries in the Clojure ecosystem do I use in order to build an personalised email marketing thing? I'll need templating, ability to send and receive emails for starters.

Have you seen Clojure Toolbox? https://www.clojure-toolbox.com/ It's pretty handy for answering that sort of question.

I am currently looking into my options writing a similar language like clojure which translates to java and runs on the jvm. It seems like antlr is often suggested, which I used already and know how it works, I just wonder if it is limiting in some way (performance, REPL)? In general I think about what would be the fastes way to generate bytecode (parse, transpile, compile), maybe write a parser by hand? Any input welcome.

I wonder why there aren't other types of browsers, not web browsers, but... different ones. An idea that recently came to my mind is having a browser that uses library coordinates as a sort of url to open, so you paste something like {criterium {:mvn/version "RELEASE"}} into address bar and it resolves deps, downloads them, assembles classpath and boots a repl or something

maybe even requires and calls index.core/-main

oh, I just realized why: it's a security nightmare

@vlaaad rebl?

rebl does nothing I described

@vlaaad what would be the difference between this and the clj/`boot` CLI?

e.g. you can do boot -d criterium repl

I’m sure there is a clj equivalent

mostly the difference between curl and firefox — ux

yeah yeah, clj -Sdeps '{...}'

well, the difference between curl and firefox is that the web has a rendering aspect; curl doesn’t render HTML; it’s pretty much unusable to browse the web.

But in the case of a REPL :thinking_face:

ah! thanks, I didn’t know for -Sdeps

yeah, I'm not sure there is a need for such a tool, since it's so easy to try stuff from the command line, but it's can be so much more powerful (and insecure) than the web browser

@vlaaad so you were thinking to also have isolation, to prevent the library you’re pulling from messing with your system?

Well, I didn't but now that I have thought about it, looks like it will be the hardest part of such "browser"...

hmm

why would you expect the security to be any different than for a repl started from the CLI?

as in, would you want different security guarantees?

I envisioned it as a more of a general purpose browser, so you can just open a link and don't be afraid that you are hacked

@vlaaad so kinda like docker run --rm -it clojure clj -Sdeps '{…}', ignoring the fact that Docker doesn’t provide 100% isolation

actually I wonder: is it possible to start the JVM with total guarantees than whatever code you run can’t touch the file-system/network/etc?

I think it might be okay to reach network

This is pretty wild https://www.qt.io/web-assembly-example-text-edit

rich text editor on QT on WASM in the browser

Little buggy right now, but has potential

About nice editors on wasm https://makepad.github.io/makepad/

Yeah, that one's on rust, right? Pretty slick

Oh, that's the code for it right here, yeah? 🙂

Wow that is solid