https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av0PQDVTP4A

fun talk, suprise clojure

https://2018.stateofjs.com/javascript-flavors/clojurescript/ The top reason to use, or not to use, CLJS is the same one: elegant vs. clumsy programming style.

aka “looks like what I’m used to / doesn’t look like what I’m used to”

which is supported by the “Hard learning curve”

there’s a strong perception of “Diminishing momentum/popularity”, which I guess translates to “not the latest hyped framework” ¯\(ツ)/¯

Love seeing Finland glowing red in “Usage by Country” map! 💪

Look at absolute numbers

Yeah, sample size is really small. But still 💪

https://2018.stateofjs.com/javascript-flavors/overview/ I really like this comparison though

1) overall percentage of “Used it, would not use again” of Clojurescript is very small compared to other experimental flavours: if someone tries it, they like it

2) salary breakdown: the more popular a framework is, the lower your pay ( ¯\(ツ)/¯ )

3) Company Size Breakdown: about the same for every language, looks like the survey reached mostly people working in large companies. Still, it shows decent pickup from large companies; it’s not an “experimental / startup” language

4) Years Of Experience Breakdown: Clojurescript seems to be picked up by very experienced developers the most. I wonder how this corresponds to those who were around and active during the last wave of Lisp popularity?

(All of that doesn’t take into consideration sample size, which can be enough to distort all these conclusions… but it’s fun to hypothesise 😄 )

https://twitter.com/dsyme/status/1064527483234590720

might be interesting. how to make it easier for people to contribute to a language. i like the open conversation with scheduled time to discuss, and presumably then they can say it has been discussed and not revisit it

understated thing from the state of JS

clojure beat scala, dart, and coffeescript

A useful takeaway might be that the barrier to entry for cljs might be too high for people to experiment with

quick maths