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What the heck am I looking at? ;)

There's a #code-reviews channel if that's what you're looking for @jiyinyiyong?

I've been looking for a non-mac laptop for years now and there just isn't any other decent laptops. Things like Lenovo are choking with preinstalled spyware and various other Lenovo's crapware.

xps13 with ubuntu is very decent, and cheap

I had a previous gen and the latest, both are great

I've seen about 50/50 positive/negative feedback on xps

Being cheap is not a requirement

I could say the same about macs, on our team most have macbooks and while I never had any hardware issue in years we had at least half a dozen returns or simply dead macs (keyboards, screens, storage etc etc )

I know, sample size and all that, but that's my impression

I’ve been using Mac laptops for years, but I’m at the point that I’m really reluctant to buy a new one, what with the keyboard issues I’ve been hearing about (and the touchbar or whatever it’s called doesn’t excite me either)

thinking about the Dell xps15 + linux lately, heard reasonably good things

I hit that point about 8 months ago; got a Thinkpad P51 & installed Ubuntu. I've been way happier than I was on Mac. Thinkpad P51 is potentially overkill for folks without heavy CPU needs (and is somewhat heavy/bulky as a result), but there are other Thinkpads much closer to the MBP form factor, like the X1 Carbon. In retrospect I wish I'd made the switch a year or two sooner.

Other Thinkpads worth looking at are the T580 & P52S (not to be mistaken for the brand-new P52, which is a serious powerhouse (6-core Xeon & up to 128GB RAM).

nice, thanks for the tips @eggsyntax

very happy user of x1 carbon 3rd gen with fedora

@dpsutton that’s the Lenovo/Thinkpad, right?

those are the two rough categories I’m considering (Thinkpad vs. XPS), I don’t know what else is out there in linux laptop land though

It's worth looking at Razer laptops IMHO, like the Razer Blade Stealth: https://www.razer.com/gaming-laptops/razer-blade-stealth

cool, although those are bulkier aren’t they?

portability is definitely key

(but will check those out too!)

oh that looks pretty lightweight actually huh

How’s the battery life with Linux nowadays?

fine on mine. I also absolutely love the trackpoint. it's like vim for a mouse

I think I get ~7 hours typically? Not quite as good as MBP, but plenty for my needs.

i get about 6 on mine but its an older model. i would expect 7-10 on a new version. i'm gen 3. i think they are on gen 6 or 7 now

One thing I like MBP is that it works really well as a laptop. But I dislike the new touch-bar generation 😕

That’s why I’m running 2015 MBP

& I'll second that on the trackpoint. I keep my trackpad totally disabled most of the time, because with the trackpoint I don't need to take my fingers off the home row.

yeah, that’s another thing, I find that if I use a trackpad for any period of time my hand starts hurting. I really don’t understand how people function with just that. I always have an external mouse with me, but the second best thing is the trackpoint--it’s the only mouse replacement I’ve ever liked

best feature of mbp though is screen. both resolution and aspect ratio. my gf has a non-touchbar one for about a month and i forgot how nice that was

My P51 is 3840x2160, which seems to do me just fine 🙂

@dpsutton that is true…there are definitely nice things about Macbooks

despite their deficiencies

oh for sure. speakers are another

Speakers were def better on MBP.

I do miss that.

Oh, also worth mentioning, in case you happened to not be aware of it, that there are also companies that make laptops with Linux preinstalled, in case you don't want to screw around with your OS, eg https://system76.com/

System 76 had very disappointing build quality in my experience. Generally felt loose and had power/screen issues early in its life.

Dell offers pre-installed linux as well if you poke around on their website

I've been using the new MBP for ~6 months now (personal and work, have two of em) and enjoy them

spendy but I had the cash

Can't run Linux on those, I found to my dismay

haven't had any serious keyboard issues other than the rare sticky key that usually fixes itself or fixed by blowing on it at an angle

ah yeah, if Linux is a requirement then not sure

@michael.gaare really? I'm running Ubuntu fine on a (pre-touchbar) mac. Something about the new ones, I take it?

Wow, yeah, sounds pretty terrible (assuming this has been kept current). No WiFi?!? That's a real shame 😕 https://gist.github.com/roadrunner2/1289542a748d9a104e7baec6a92f9cd7

The new xps13 has 13+ hours battery on paper

I never pushed it that far, but that doesnt seem too far fetched

(that's for the model without touchscreen)

my 2016 xps never got past 7 hours

Depending on the screen the diff can be quite big

the spacebar in the new MacBook Pro broke for me within a month…

and I’ve had 2 (original) power adapters blow up in less than 3 months :/

@mpenet 13"

really good screen or regular?

really good

I mean touch or not, fhd etc

yeah I’ve got the maxed out screen

fhd w/ touch

Yeah that one is hungry

but touch I’ve disabled since it works like shit on linux anyway

i wish my x1 carbon didn't have touch. it makes the screen less crisp

(I only got the maxed out screen because I had 40% off and that was the only configuration available)

but the fhd is nice

once you get used to high res text there's no going back

If you ask a rep usually you can get anything

I bugged them to get the exact specs I wanted with a us keyboard in sweden

@mpenet yeah I wasn’t in a position where I could get both the 40% off AND buy the laptop off dell

40% off is a good motivation heh

@dpsutton true, but most of the time it's plugged to an ext screen, rest is just for commute/travels

So it doesnt matter

my only complaints about that laptop are that: - like most dells, it runs quite hot - the screen hinges are really shit and break super easy in a way that makes the entire bottom part of the laptop split open, risking massive breakage of the media ports

Mileage may vary, I never had temp issues :p media ports? (I had 2013 model and now the new one)

mine runs at ~60c under light load

i7?

yeah

re: the second issue

the bottom (silver) part breaks away from the top

and if it happens while you have either the power cord plugged or a usb cable plugged in

it’s not fun

it’s going to tear the ports off the motherboard

Ok. The old one I have has a different chassis. The new one too, hopefully without that issue

it seems to be a problem specific to the 2016 model

That sounds bad tho

@eggsyntax yeah, it’s a dreadful state of affairs.

@mpenet well, a bit of duct tape and it’s been holding up for the past 4 months..

annoyingly dell doesn’t think it’s a defect and they won’t repair it 🙃

That sucks

@ddellacosta Have you considered running Windows 10 and WSL to get the Linux command-line goodness with a fully-supported-by-hardware GUI O/S?

That's the direction I'm going after about 25 years of Mac laptops and desktops.

@seancorfield I totally admit to a bias against Windows, even though it’s been years 😬

I should consider it though

I’ve tried Windows 10 a few times. Last time when my wife’s laptop’s wifi didn’t work anymore. It irritated me so much, I replaced hers with a Macbook Air.

I do like some aspects of having things being well-supported, I can’t lie

@borkdude that’s what I’m worried about…

Her laptop was accidentally upgraded and we couldn’t downgrade anymore

I've been a hardcore Mac guy since the early 90's but I'm really enjoying my aging XPS 12 convertible with Windows 10 (Fast Ring Insider builds!) and WSL/Ubuntu.

So re-installed and lost a bunch of files in the process… bad memories

My 27" iMac desktop runs Windows 10 via Parallels, although I'm still using macOS Terminal for dev work there (due to some IPv6 glitches caused by Parallels, as far as I can tell).

I also tried WSL: I compiled an ELF binary on my Mac in Docker and tried to run it in WSL. Ran into a bunch of unsupported things. It was a Haskell program, FWIW.

At that moment I knew I didn’t want Windows 10 + WSL yet. I might give it a chance in some years, but not now.

@borkdude I haven't tried binary level stuff like that -- I've had no problems with apt-installed stuff tho'...

yeah I mean, maybe having a VM layer w/Windows would let me do things that I want

don’t know much about WSL

Full user-mode Linux 🙂 With the syscall layer implemented "natively" so there's good Windows/Linux interop too.

interesting

Definitely worth taking a look at IMO (as someone who has used Mac since System 6 days, with a BSD Unix port as an app, back then!).

http://www.tenon.com/products/machten/ <-- how I ran *nix on System 6 / 7 / 7.5

you know, that reminds me, I’m also intrigued by trying a BSD on a laptop, although I guess that’s probably going to be even more limiting than Linux

in general I like ports systems a lot though

I think there are three Linux options for WSL -- Ubuntu came first so I stuck with it. I'd have to look in the Microsoft Store to see what else is available...

I recently learned that Windows 10 displays ads… you can turn it off manually, but that’s gross

You mean the hints and tips it displays on the lock screen @borkdude?

I don't consider them ads, and rarely spend any time staring at the lock screen anyway 🙂

https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/17/14956540/microsoft-windows-10-ads-taskbar-file-explorer

That's hardly an "ad". I assume that article is written by a Windows-hater?

I have a "live" account which I use for the Store and various other MS-related stuff, and I like the Rewards program.

> Microsoft already had to walk back its aggressive Windows 10 upgrade prompts last year This is exactly why my wife had accidentally upgraded her Windows… and then it became malfunctioning

I know that you're very anti-MS 🙂

I was too, years ago.

But MS has been innovating lately where Apple has stood still. ¯\(ツ)/¯

I’m not anti-MS, I just hate they are so pushy with the upgrades/ads and hate what happened.

my work’s iMac has been asking me to update it ~5 times a day for the past 6 months

it’s not just MS that’s overly pushy

Yeah, that's part of what's soured me on Apple.

yes, admittedly my dad upgraded to high sierra because he just clicked a button, BUT his laptop still works

selection bias? :P

With MS, I've been on Fast Ring Insider builds since the 8 or 8.1 days... And, yeah, I've bricked my laptop a couple of times, but it's easy to reset (even from the BSOD at startup 🙂 ) and even with a full wipe & reinstall, it only takes an hour or so to have everything back on the system...

Hey, I was a .NET developer at the start of my career. I’m not anti-MS, just anti-clunky developer experience and familiy-support desk time

I’ve used linux exclusively since 2008 and started using osx for work a couple of years ago + I touch a windows laptop every few months when I go back to visit my parents — it was a real surprise when I realised macOS and recent windows break just as much (if not more) than linux

I helped my cousin buy a windows laptop last year and off the shelf win 10 had driver issues and wouldn’t reboot properly :/

Years ago, I insisted on switching my long-time Windows-using wife over to a Mac. She hated the switch for months but then started to love it and recommended Apple/Mac to all her friends. But lately -- over the last year or two -- she's constantly complaining about Apple software being buggy/broken and her next machine will be a Windows 10 box 🙂

Setting the PATH on Windows: copy some long string from a barely readable field, edit it in Notepad, paste it back in… is that still the easiest way? 🙂

@seancorfield what’s Fast Ring Insider?

early builds?

The Insider Program is MS's prerelease program. You can get builds on fast or slow rings -- the latter's more stable.

Sometimes you can get several new Windows builds in a week in the fast ring.

You can also sometimes skip ahead to the next version of Windows (I was testing RedStone 5 before RedStone 4 -- the Spring update -- shipped).

@borkdude editing environment variables is a lot easier now

To say something positive: Office for Mac is a nice software.

And also Visual Studio is pretty slick for C#, etc.

Yeah, Office has come on in leaps and bounds. And the online experience is pretty close to the desktop now.

Ah, that looks a lot better (editing env vars)

I use the Office apps on my iPhone too (Outlook is my default email client on my iPhone -- and I run Cortana, Edge, and Bing too).

@seancorfield do you use Parallels in Windows?

No, only on macOS (to run Windows 10).

My XPS12 laptop is pure Windows (with WSL).

then why is it on the path? Just wondering…

I'm on my Mac right now 🙂

So Parallels (on Mac) adds utilities to Windows (and all other guest O/S) to make interop smoother.

For example, shared DropBox/OneDrive etc between macOS host and Windows guest.

hmm, this would double the amount of data on your laptop, no?

How is git on windows? I always found it a second rate experience: you had to use some special terminal to make it bearable.

And what do you use instead of OmniGraffle?

I use git on WSL. I do all my dev work in Ubuntu via WSL.

I stopped used OmniGraffle years ago. What do you use it for these days? (just curious -- it's a great program, I just stopped having a need for it)

I don’t use it often, but when I need it, it’s the only thing I know that is that good

drawing diagrams

At work we've been using Lucid online I think. Integrates with Atlassian stuff I think. I hardly ever draw diagrams these days 😐

this is all convincing me I probably just want a linux machine 😂

(mostly joking but not completely): I use emacs in draw mode + https://github.com/ivanceras/svgbobrus to turn ascii diagrams into svgs and it works suprisingly well (well, decently)

woah

Talking about laptops, has anyone thought about buying a miniPC (like a NUC or Zotac) like < 1000 grams and a portable screen? This might work 🙂

I've never enjoyed *nix as a desktop env but I've always used it as a dev env (and deployment env), even dating back into the 80's 🙂

(oh, the joy of all those completely incompatible proprietary flavors of Unix!)

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The default desktop experience of large distros is rarely pleasant, but you can change anything to what you like, which is not the case for win/osx

I guess it's like spending time to setup an editor, it's a small price to pay. Then driver support nowadays is quite good, I cannot remember last time I had issues

Some people seem to be able to work with pixelbooks too now

Ex bodil is quite vocal about it

@mpenet I recently looked into the Hades Canyon NUC. The only thing was that the driver for the AMD Radeon Vega was scheduled for a linux kernel that came out in september, but the rest was supported.

Another plus of pixelbook: 4:3 mate (I think) screen

I almost bought one instead of the xps, it was just a pita to get here with the specs I wanted

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In my experience many developers running Linux don't run default desktop envs like Gnome but i3 or something with custom setup of tools.

most of the games I play run on linux pretty well now. Thanks to valve I guess for pushing steamos and making linux compatibility more popular

Yeah, I've tried a number, but so far nothing's beat gnome for me.

I have a quite minimalistic i3 setup myself

Gnome's got sufficient keybindability that I don't have to touch the mouse much (plus I don't mind touching the mouse as much with a trackpoint because my fingers stay on the home row, plus I live in emacs a lot of the time, so no need for mouse). (including bindings for various window resizes btw, which lets me be tile-ish when I want)

anyone using cinnamon? I’m a big fan of how it gives exactly as much tiling functionality I want

@scriptor didn't know that about cinnamon, I may look into it now 🙂

@eggsyntax it’s pretty barebones, but it lets you bind certain keys to things like left half, top right corner, bottom half, etc.

have any of you guys done talks at meetups/whatever about your careers? I've had a couple of requests to talk about...myself...at a couple different meetup groups (mostly because ive experienced a couple of immigration systems and have started a company that got quite a bit of funding) and im not really sure where to start with that. I've never done any kind of large group presentation that didnt involve training people on software before 😛 Any tips/advice would be appreciated.

find examples of other people who talked about themselves in ways that inspired you or moved you, and mercilessly plagiarize from them

my favorite at the moment: https://youtu.be/Z7QL6hjeNDA

is ubuntu back on gnome then?

it’s got a great framing device of “10 lessons learned from <insert important personal experience here>“, and then little stories for each one that are generalizable

I3 is good indeed. Sane defaults and not horrible config format

interesting

ok that's good advice 🙂

Yes Ubuntu has gone back to gnome

But I think it's still x11 default not Wayland. Fedora defaults to Wayland with gnome though

They dropped Unity, MIR and Ubuntu phone 😄 But at least Snappy (the package maanger for Ubuntu Phone) seems to be useful for apps like Spotify.

The one thing I still hugely miss from OS X is iTerm2. That is a truly beautiful piece of software, especially with the sophisticated keyboard-driven search & copy facilities. If anyone knows of a Linux terminal that comes close, I'd love to know about it. I've tried a bunch of them, am currently using Gnome Terminal + tmux to emulate most of what iTerm2 does. But it's not as smoothly integrated as it is in iTerm2, and after ~8 months I still feel the lack.

iterm2 is so slow tho

Huh, interesting. Not that I ever noticed. I should go back & try it on my wife's MBP and see if it feels slow to me now.

for me it's hugely noticeable going back and forth between emacs in iterm2 and emacs in urxvt

Is that the terminal, though, or is it emacs on OS X?

alacritty (the terminal written in rust) is coming a long pretty nice

but it definitely isn't iterm2

(of course I just use xterm)

ah definitely the terminal, even outputting large amounts of text is much slower

some programs literally take seconds longer to finish running in iterm2 compared to in urxvt because of printing bottleneck

for macOS there's putty which is blazingly fast

but sometimes crashes unfortunately

s/crashes/causes macos to kernel panic/

TBH I've never quite understood using terminals and tmux/screen as a poor man's tiling window manager

making the jump to one terminal per window + tiling using the wm feels much more natural

that said, I do tile buffers inside emacs so :P

I don't use tmux much for tiling -- I use it (in conjunction with tmuxinator) in order to have decent keyboard-driven scrollback, text search, & copy/paste.

& also to be able to quickly connect and disconnect to different combinations of terminals for different projects.

I see, that makes sense

(which are basically all the things I miss from iTerm2...)

I thought you missed the tiles/tabs :)

Nah. Mostly just the ones I named, and good visual configurability.

I’m using tmux copy mode + some of the tmux plugins, especially laktak/extrakto

the text search in iterm2 is indeed quite good

The ability to, using only the keyboard, search backward in terminal history for text (both input and output), selectively expand the selection, and copy it. That's the main thing.

Cool, I'll check out laktak/extrakto, I've never really dived into tmux plugins yet.

does it do fuzzy searching of terms?

iTerm2 or tmux?

iTerm2?

Yeah, I forget the details because it's been a while, but you've got full regex at your disposal.

it does what I want 90% of the time

for regex searches there is: tmux-plugins/tmux-copycat

so every minute or so my air conditioning makes a sound like someone playing a note on a bass guitar. It's really weird.

scared the crap out of me at like 1am last night

Soon it'll hit the road, leaving you behind to start its new music career

well i hope it waits until after the summer in any case

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