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vemv00:01:23

any news in the Arachne Framework front?

qqq12:01:45

for anyone looking for a "clojure ide in clojure", please check out https://github.com/mogenslund/liquid -- it's < 5k lines of code, and absolutely amazing (you can run the gui in browser via: lein run --server --port=8000 --rows=50 --columns=160 )

yogidevbear22:01:41

Anyone here have experience with Grails?

sveri07:01:05

I wrote a image manager / viewer with it like 8 years ago and was very pleased. I totally prefer it over RoR and friends. Especially as a web framework it comes with all sorts of stuff and good documentation.

yogidevbear10:01:01

Cool, thanks for the feedback @U0677JTQX 👍

yogidevbear10:01:52

Would you describe it as having an easy learning curve?

sveri10:01:45

No problem. Its hard to say as I had already like 15 years experience back then and knew most of the concepts. All in all I would say yes because of the superb documentation. One caveat was the ORM layer and that it might not much the developers expectations, but I also remember that there were several blog posts showing how to use it in an idiomatic way.

yogidevbear10:01:36

Yeah, ORM isn't particularly a preference of mine in general, but good to hear these things

sveri10:01:54

If I would use grails again I would also use its ORM.

sveri10:01:06

Even if I dislike ORMs myself

yogidevbear10:01:23

I agree. I would probably say it's the same as trying to do a RoR app without using the ORM (the ORM is what it was really designed for in a sense)

yogidevbear10:01:57

I was playing around with the grails and gradle wrappers and the initial setup is pretty nice

yogidevbear10:01:50

I like that you can build a wireframe app via the grails website and then simply run grailsw run-app to get a local version running on port 8080

yogidevbear10:01:10

without the need to install grails first

sveri10:01:45

Uh, thats indeed nice 🙂 But yea, it was pretty easy back then to get started, IIRC.