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2017-07-07
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qqq02:07:38

so I'm holding ~ 1 ETH which I no longer need (no longer interested in writihg solidity contracts)

qqq02:07:44

what's the best way to convert this back to cash ?

danp10:07:28

@qqq I used Kraken a while back: https://www.kraken.com/

bherrmann11:07:33

Wow: Java 9 now offers immutable lists, sets and maps.

a1311:07:55

Happy new 2008 year!

mpenet11:07:06

@bherrmann "immutable" yes, "persistent" I don't think so

mpenet11:07:53

I believe Kotlin will soon, and in theory there are libraries for this available already today

bherrmann11:07:36

@mpenet Yea, I read what I wanted to see, not what it was saying. Boo.

dominicm13:07:47

What does persistent mean here?

danielstockton13:07:27

Structural sharing

dominicm13:07:11

Ah, so they will be very memory hungry then

danielstockton13:07:01

I understood it to mean that they will just be immutable with no way to create new versions without copying the whole structure.

dominicm13:07:45

I think I've always made immutable and persistent equatable in my mind.

bherrmann14:07:20

Too clever for words. (actually very clever for words) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCIU66UXOFc The product is still in private beta... https://www.descript.com/

fellshard16:07:11

Makes me wonder if we'll end up needing to develop tech that 'watermarks' or 'signs' actual speech, maybe emitting periodic hashes in audio form that can be validated against the spoken phonemes using the person's public key. It would curb the use of out-of-context soundbite culture, especially if those soundbites can now be edited to literally say whatever you want them to say.