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2017-06-29
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mpenet13:06:47

@bja reminds me a lot of restclient in emacs, I hardly use curl since I installed that mode

mobileink21:06:14

my geuss is lots of programming jobs will be automated.

souenzzo22:06:19

Security/Operation should be less affected then programmers

mobileink22:06:48

quite the opposite, i think. that stuff is entirely automatable.

mobileink22:06:12

i'm pretty sure MS etc. are already working on it.

mobileink22:06:46

fb hires 3000 people to find bad things. they'll all be replaced by AI within 5 years.

mobileink22:06:26

we'll need humans to drive the machines. we will not need humans to program them.

fellshard22:06:14

You don't want fungible people skimping when it comes to security. The question is whether that just opens up security folks to be able to work more effectively at a higher level / on deeper level concerns, or whether they lose their jobs entirely. Due to the nature of security, I strongly suspect the former. đŸ™‚

mobileink22:06:16

@souenzzo ops will probably be the first to go. q: what can an ops guy do that an AI cannot (in principle) do? a: nothing, except maybe pound a keyboard.

souenzzo13:06:18

mobileink: what you call ops? For me it's something about "the guy that configure the network/server". Now there is thons of cool UI and zero ssh/vim? Yes. For a small operation I will just pull my jar? Sure. But for any medium/complex ops will be need a guy that knows that apache can do X or Y...

fellshard22:06:46

operations is theoretically on its way out due to Devops

fellshard22:06:05

In practice it's too much of a culture shift for too many companies to take on the automation

mobileink22:06:37

now? sure. 5 years from now?

mobileink22:06:28

you only need to worry about culture shift if you have people. if you can replace all your peeps by machines, then you don't have a culture problem.

mobileink22:06:37

i'm not rooting for it, i'm just saying: this will happen, whether we like it or not.

mobileink23:06:57

er, except for clojure programmers, of course.