off-topic 2017-05-27 | Slack Archive

But that would require you to use Skype.

Yes, but by forcing everyone to communicate through Skype, it eliminates the priviledged of native English speakers and levels the field.

shivekkhurana10:05:53

Hi community !

shivekkhurana10:05:59

I'm pushing to shift my company's new backend to Clojure + Graphql. The argument that comes against this is, that it's impossible to find Clojure devs. Has anybody here have faced an issue with the same ?

shivekkhurana10:05:13

How hard it's to find Clojure developers ?

dominicm11:05:29

A lot of companies have no issue training developers into Clojure, even from Java.

dotemacs12:05:50

@shivekkhurana look at the JUXT’s Clojure In series on their site, and see what those people are saying about recruiting new devs

dominicm15:05:47

@shivekkhurana (disclaimer: I work for JUXT). https://juxt.pro/blog/posts/clojure-in-baresquare.html comes to mind regarding hiring in clojure-in.

akiroz15:05:05

This. Clojure is easy to learn if you already know the host language well.

akiroz15:05:42

A colleague of mine got productive with my reagent/re-frame app in 2 days when he only know react/redux

mobileink19:05:28

thesis: there are 2 models of computation: classic computation (turing machine, lambds calc, and equiv.) and cocomputation (csp, pi calc, interactionist, etc. - no generally accepted terminology.) real-world programming always involves both. example: web apps involve a functional part that returns values for input, but they also involve a co-functional part responsible for observing input (requests), applying the functional bit to the input, taking the value returned, and exhibiting (sending) it. conceptually they are entirely distinct.

mobileink19:05:26

to me this seems a very useful distinction, but i've never seen it explicitly articulated in the programming world. e.g. OOP is pretty clearly a case of co-functional (black-boxy) programming.

mobileink19:05:08

clojure does both right out of the box, and it keeps them distinct without saying so explicitly.

mobileink19:05:36

e.g. def (defn etc.) is cofunctional. it's a knob on Clojure's runtime blackbox.

mobileink19:05:28

speculation: we would be better off if we made all this more explicit. e.g. web frameworks typically treat everything as one big blob of programming.

romain23:05:51

Does someone use Windows as main OS for developing Clojure apps? I wonder how it has evolved

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