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sveri15:02:13

Interesting, our business lawyer said we have to replace the react components we built upon this release

sveri15:02:35

because of the licensing terms of react, unfortunately I do not know more. Any thoughts on that?

dominicm15:02:24

Unless they think they'll ever sue Facebook… But it's a common complaint from lawyers on React.

dpsutton15:02:54

i thought that clause was change back to be more in line with other licenses

dpsutton15:02:15

ie, the license is only rejected if you sue FB for the patents in React

dpsutton15:02:03

ha, i actually can't see that at work due to scansafe

dominicm15:02:16

Ah, I remembered something about that. But wasn't sure. This is much better than it was.

dominicm16:02:06

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a standard term when companies license their software.

dpsutton16:02:55

and I believe it was in spirit of this, taken from Apache 2.0 license: > If You institute patent litigation against any entity (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit) alleging that the Work or a Contribution incorporated within the Work constitutes direct or contributory patent infringement, then any patent licenses granted to You under this License for that Work shall terminate as of the date such litigation is filed.

sveri16:02:55

Thanks for the links, I just got some more information. According to our lawyers whenever someone gets into any patent litigation with facebook, be it they sue us or we sue them, the license will be instantly revoked. I am not a lawyer, but if ours say so, this is pretty bad.

sveri16:02:13

From the license faq: Does the additional patent grant in the Facebook BSD+Patents license terminate if Facebook sues me for patent infringement first, and then I respond with a patent counterclaim against Facebook? No, unless your patent counterclaim is related to Facebook's software licensed under the Facebook BSD+Patents license.

sveri16:02:34

Whatever the last sentence means, I read it as, yes, the license can be terminated, even if we sue you first.

sveri16:02:05

Also in case someone wants to see the software I am working on, this is a demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmx146q3W0 Its a nice showcase for how something that has a middle to bad usability and is ugly as hell in today standards, still can earn Millions of $ in licenses if its part of a larger product 😄

timgilbert23:02:49

Unexpectedly, I might have occasion to use AutoLISP for some stuff I'm working on. All the books and resources about it I've turned up seem to be from the early nineties. Can anyone point me to some more recent resources, or a good online community I can engage with?

timgilbert23:02:35

I can't really tell if it's even still used or if it's been eclipsed by C++ as an extension language. What I'd be doing with it would probably involve connecting it out to external (RESTish) services and maybe displaying some UI, not necessarily programmatically designing stuff or whatnot