@slipset that looks really interesting

@slipset: that looks really cool.

@samlinncon: You mentioned about work and finding time for learning Clojure so I'm guessing you work with other languages during the day?

@yogidevbear: yeap i do use other languages, mainly php and java,as for php am using a framework known as laravel.

Yeah I've heard of it. php isn't really my cup of tea but that could just be because everyone jumped onto it and introduced a lot of code that wasn't necessarily architected in the best way (same could be said for some of my CF code though 😉 )

haha.but its quit easy and fast to learn when dealing with back end.but i have always been interested in using java for the back end,seems more interesting.

personally i have never used CF

I don't think most of the people in this slack group will have used CF, but I might be mistaken. It has been around for a long time. I hadn't heard of it before taking a job where it was the main language being used.

And that was about 7 years ago

thats quit a long time,actually at times you get yourself learning a new language in your job place. you are still working in the same place?

No, I've moved jobs and countries since then I've been thinking of expanding my horizons for a while now though and was leaning towards something like .NET again (C# using MVC and WebAPI) or Python. But I've seen the Clojure logo popping up a lot recently and a few CF devs have mentioned it with much admiration in passing conversation so I started looking into it and I like what I see so far

And the Clojure community seems very active which is always a positive

i've never heard of CF

thats a good move, for me am trying to find freelance jobs too to acquire more skills in the process.

@swizzard: its cold fusion

CF = ColdFusion in case that causes any confusion

@samlinncon: How are you finding the freelance job hunt? Are you struggling to get freelance work?

yeap am really struggling,could you help by any means?😀

Haha, if only

Only advice I can offer is to try do something for someone local and hope they spread the word about how good the service was they received

Hopefully it can grow from there

you get jobs locally in your place?

brb

I recently moved and made some friends who referred some work my way. That seems to be leading to more work, but I have a full time day job so not trying to get too much extra work right now

guess i should DM you probably we could work together or something

Being over the 5,000 mark is good and bad. Good showing that the community is growing; bad that sooner or later, Slack’s going to do something about us.

Er, @meow. ^^

do something?

We’re all doing this for free. Technically, once you get past a certain amount of users (or whatever), you have to buy a paid account which is per seat which would be prohibitively expensive.

There’s a #C0CB40N8K channel where we’ve been talking about alternatives. It’s… contentious, to say the least.

I think they stop you from accepting any new users

And without the paid version, it only logs so much and doesn’t log private messages at all.

Actually, I might be wrong about the private messages bit. I just know that they only keep 10,000 lines overall. There’s a bot somewhere that’s doing that for us, and it’s not against ToC but, literally at any moment Slack could change things and we’d be done.

So it’s not a matter of ‘if’ so much as it’s a matter of ‘when’.

Out of interest sake, where are the most active, non-slack, clojure online community groups? (e.g. IRC, etc.)

@yogidevbear: chat, or any?

I suppose chat based. What would "any" constitute?

Like the Google group and the Clojure subreddit

IRC is the only other chat-based community that I know of for Clojure

Also found http://clojure.org/community/resources which might help my search

I see. I thought Slack was pay-only and some wealthy benefactor was footing the bill.

The pricing model just doesn’t work for communities of this size. The sum is something ridiculous. I forgot the exact number it would come out to

but hundreds of thousands of dollars I believe

wat

hmm

https://slack.com/pricing

$8 per user per month if billed monthly

they need to make a "community edition"...

So currently $40016 per month for this group alone

wow so a half million/year? that's a pretty good argument for moving back to irc...

Please don't ruin this channel. All this belongs on #C0CB40N8K so I can ignore it. Thank you.

This has been bikeshedded to death and documented on Hackpads.

Enough said

Thank you.

Did I just get channel monitored by @meow? [holds up fists, 1920s-pugilist style]

channel monitored?

oh, as in acting as a channel monitor

Hah, @meow’s a friend; I’m just poking his ribs.

Figured as much

Ha ha. Yeah. Gotta protect my favorite channel.

Love you bro.

our architecture is so flexible, we added CRUD for a new business entity in only 1400 lines of code :face_with_rolling_eyes:

technically 700 to do it, 700 to test it

we're approaching 1000 Clojure files

What app is that, @jcromartie

@meow it's an internal app

Oh, cool

https://play.spotify.com/track/609KG3u24dkewtpYQcPqHm

https://play.spotify.com/track/74q8a3WdCCSHbRLU2aoP8a

https://play.spotify.com/track/4OdLXRwP5IxYGZjZ0rq4A5