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and girls!

gluten morgen all

@meow: To avoid having a meta-argument about discussing #C03RZGPG1 in #C03RZGPG1. Is policing it that hard really worth it? Anyone who's bothered by the level of traffic there currently should just mute it (IMHO).

While it's not part-able, you can still render it irrelevant

I'm not an admin so it isn't up to me. People complain. About a lot of things. I would tell them to buck up and grow a pair. Good thing I'm not an admin.

Ah, so we're on the same page.

I don't know. Are you a sadomasochist who likes reactji performance art?

Well, maybe not the same page then, but a similar book. 😄

It's all good. 😉

ok, meekan scares me

What is meekan

meekan is a scheduling bot

@agile_geek: Ah, thanks.

just curious what you guys think. if money didn't matter, 13" or 15" MBP?

15”.

15" if you don't move around a lot. 13" if you do. If you have any plans of working on a plane, the 15" is too big.

It’s the only one that I know of that hot-swaps the two video chips. It’s quite fast overeall.

That’s a consideration, definitely, but I’ve never had a problem with a 15” on a plane.

Because I always fly first class.

Just kidding. I wish, though.

if I'm traveling, I tend to take my Macbook Air

I only say because my 13" appears to be the width of most economy tray tables. And if the person in front of me doesn't recline too far I'm all good on height.

@akiva: You're real problem is trying to eat gumbo while working on your oversized laptop on the airplane. 😉

It’s one of my very, very many problems.

I have a 13” now because my 15” died a horrible death. But when I traveled with my 15”, it was okay as long as I had a window seat on a decent airline.

A friend of mine used to travel with one of the old 17” ones and would get regularly beat up by angry passengers.

Gumbo spills will ruin just about any laptop. And it's a horrble way for them to die.

That’s very true.

I think it'd be a good way to die

It’s how I plan to go.

But I’m also most likely not a laptop.

I once ruined a Macbook Air, well actually my wife did, by spilling water on it. I'm very cautious since then, even in trains, when people are passing by or when I'm drinking tea behind my desk

Mine was killed by ramen noodle soup.

And, yes, I am hyper-cautious now.

I was on an international train once. Liquid was leaking from someones luggage above the seats.

And someone was working on a laptop close by... it was very close.

They should invent waterproof laptop keyboards

Something similar happened to me. I had one of those cheap/usually-handed-out-for-free water bottles in my bag and I didn’t screw the cap on properly, it fell over on its side and was slowly filling up my backpack, with my laptop in it, with water

but it will drop replacement sales 😉

Hah true. I’m still angry that my old-style Mac Pro has no modern monitors compatible with it and my old 24” Cinema display is dying slowly.

Talking about another first world problem, I bought a 25" Dell screen, but I find the resolution too high... the letters are too small...

@akiva: can't you buy some converter thingie?

Maybe now. I checked a couple of years ago and there was no DisplayPort-to-Thunderbolt converters and sites were reporting that Apple wasn’t going to allow it to happen, third-party or otherwise.

There maybe updated ATI cards which might have Thunderbolt but, again, haven’t researched. My Mac Pro’s in storage.

How do you feel about the Apple Magic Mouse?

I have one but I prefer the Magic Trackpad. And I have a really nice Kensington Trackball for gaming.

@akiva: so you need Thunderbolt per se for your Macbook Pro?

Nah, my MacBook Pro is new enough (purchased just a few months ago) that it has all Thunderbolt ports.

I was talking about the old, tall, silver 2009 Mac Pro beasts earlier.

ah Mac Pro

well that one is hard to use on a plane for sure

Hahaha yes.

I've used my Macbook Air on planes also, but it depends on the plane if it works

sometimes the screen tilts too far in

Yeah. It simply doesn’t always work.

Maybe the 11" MBA would

but that's too small for me

Yeah. It’s way too tiny. I’d rather just see about propping up an iPad with a keyboard.

And I mean way too tiny to own an 11” laptop just for using on an airplane.

The new Macbook is really light and 12", it might be the optimum for travels

The one with the new funky keyboard? Some friends of mine complained about typing on it but I had no trouble.

The keyboard is still the same size as always I think?

But it uses a different kind of technology so it’s really super-flat.

And it definitely does feel differently. But I liked it.

I've used a Magic Keyboard lately, it's more flat than the previous wireless keyboard

My favorite keyboard was on my Lenovo 12" laptop some years ago I think

but the Magic Keyboard is good also

Right on. I cook along at a good pace on the standard MacBook Air/Pro keyboards but you put me behind my CODE Keyboard (also in storage, sadly), I hit about 10-20 wpm higher.

You can't beat a Mechanical Keyboard, on Cherry MX Blue's

Cherry MX Clears for me.

I'm glad not everyone uses those. The sound in the office drives me mad.

I'm a fan of the clicky clacky

Oh, I’d never use one in the office without dampeners.

just ordered an ergodox infinity with zealio 65g. currently typing on an ergodox-ez with brown gaterons

and this is why my mechanical keyboard flares up a bit of RSI https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/off-topic/p1455571552000088

(yay for headphones)

figured that my coworkers would not appreciate blues

It’s my fault!

I use mine in the office...

open office layout?

star office layout

Yeah, I want to get… the browns? With like the one layer dampeners. They should still pop but shouldn’t be so loud.

@echristopherson: ¬_¬

honestly, browns aren't that bad even without damping

yup, Most of the people around me sit with their headphones on though .. that was before I got this too though lol

unless you bottom out every time - but that's not the switch itself

I have an old 104-key terminal-style keyboard from waaaay back in the day and it sounds like a machine gun.

What do you guys think of the Boss QC 25 headphones? I like the idea of noise cancelling, but the sound is too flat for my taste.

I'm Typing on a Filco Majestouch at the moment, blank keys .. Have to admit though I am a big fan of the sound

I’m a Sennheiser fan but I tend to really hate wearing headphones for very long.

I may get some o-rings for it, but I dunno

I like the sound of keyboard when I'm typing, not when I'm hearing someone else typing furiously

while I was working at lockheed, some of the hardened server hardware had buckling spring keyboards that I'm pretty sure are custom made for the racks - I could hear them over the server farm fans they were so clicky

@borkdude, I get that. And it’s why I’ve never brought my CODE into work. It’s loud-as-hell.

every one of my coworkers hated them except me lol

Hahaha. @lucien.knechtli, I’m capricious about it. Some people type… nicer? than others? Some people even on a laptop I want to smack in the back of the head.

also pretty sure that I could have taken a fireaxe to those keyboards and have barely made a dent

haha true

By the time you factor in other people typing, and the hustle and bustle of chatter it really isn't too bad

unless you sit by sales. then you pretty much need headphones. can't wait for the office move next month - we'll have enough space to actually have some sound separation between teams

Look up 'misophonia' if you have some people looking very angry when you type loud

@borkdude: I have Misophonia myself, with other sounds 😉

I have a friend who literally loses his shit if he hears anyone eating with their mouths open.

I have it too, strangely enough only with some people

it also matters how they type

or eat

I’m lucky then. Few noises bother me. Except really crappy music.

I gotta run. Thanks for the chat

Anytime, sir!

I should go do some dishes or set fire to the kitchen or something.

earspray ftw

^ ???

Earspray sounds like something excessively unpleasant and unexpected.

earspray is when people have their earphones so loud you can hear it

it is.

Oh!

I’m really really bad about that.

uh oh

i was thinking sneak attack with canned air

As a kid, I had astronomically bad ear infections and so I have a lot of damage. Good thing for me: I have remarkably good hearing in spite of the scarring; Bad thing for everyone else: I can listen to music extremely loud without concern.

But I try to be respectful in an office environment

oh, wow

I wouldn't have thought those two attributes would coöccur