Are you worried about the Slackpocalypse? https://github.com/clojurians/clojurians-chat/wiki/Slackpocalypse

In the Scala world they seem to use gitter

I don't know if that is open source

Gitter has been evaluated and ruled out as even a candidate

@meow: why isn't gitter a candidate? Is this documented somewhere?

https://gitter.im/clojure/general

we tried it

didn't take long to run into too many negatives for this community and what we need to support it

no channel discoverability is big enough to kill it right there

ok

@meow: isn't discord a good alternative to slack? their interface is very cool, it accepts voice chats too, supports all mobile platforms

they engaged a lot with the programming community, they embraced some feature requests from the reactiflux community, like adding support to markdown

honestly i've found discord's UI less than ideal. but otoh i don't particularly care for slack's either.

i haven't seen hipchat mentioned. Pluses and minuses to everything but Atlassian isn't going anywhere and they have other revenue streams. Given their historic friendliness to open source projects- and they use Clojure some internally, I believe- they may be inclined to support a large community on a public hipchat.

Well, if discord's UI is less than ideal then hipchat's is downright awful IMHO.

write an open-source replacement using clj[s]+datomic

oh I didn't even notice that idea was already on the wiki page

Sure, am not saying it isn't. In the context where Slack decides to block growth of this community, is it bad enough to prevent a productive community from reforming there? It should also get better now that there is real competition- Atlassian is incentivized to improve the experience and has a long history of support for and adaptation to open source community needs. Also, to the earlier conversation, the state of play is empirical evidence that it's pretty hard to do this really well- all power to those who have the energy to contribute, but in the interim, if Slack decides to take its toys away, may be worth exploring that option

completely off-topic question, I'm from brazil and I was reading an article when I encountered the expression "I hope for there", can some native speaker explain the meaning of this expression? is it something like: "I expect ..."?

I haven't heard that expression, not where I'm from atleast

I hope for there isn’t really a complete phrase

I hope, is like I wish

esnunes: if there's any context to it that might help

I was googling it and I found a phrase "I'm agnostic, but I hope for there to be a Heaven or other afterlife"

yeah, usually it's "I hope for there to be...". It's in the "subjective mood"

http://grammarist.com/grammar/subjunctive-mood/

subjunctive, sorry

Yep. It basically means ‘I hope there is’ or ‘I hope there will be’.

thanks guys and sorry to bother you with that

the "to be" is part of the phrase though

Right but it really isn’t grammatically necessary. ‘I hope there to be a new season of my favorite TV show’ is the same as ‘I hope there will be a new season of my favorite TV show.'