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jaen00:12:54

@naomarik: huh, an NPE never happened for me, that's weird. Anything interesting in the stacktrace? Also, if you feel that's enough for today feel free to ping me tomorrow if you get around to it.

naomarik00:12:11

okay thanks 😉 appreciate your help

jaen00:12:11

Apart from the emacs part it shouldn't be too hard to get it working

jaen00:12:27

(because I don't know the next thing about emacs)

naomarik00:12:53

i just got it working simple_smile

naomarik00:12:57

super ahppy

naomarik00:12:27

tomorrow some real work shall begin, thanks jaen for your help.. boot seems a bit nicer than lein/fig for me

jaen00:12:06

Oh, what was wrong?

naomarik06:12:33

@jaen whole lot of stuff, tenzing made an app skeleton with old dependencies, had to set up a .boot a profile.boot that was a bit different than the latest documentation, realized cider-jack-in-clojurescript wasn't helping out, had to use cider-connect to localhost to connect to the repl started with boot dev, from there i do (start-repl) ensure the browser is connected and i'm good

naomarik07:12:22

it's a bit crazy, had probably 30 browser tabs open at once and my normal day is 10 max

sveri07:12:34

@naomarik: I stream here: https://www.livecoding.tv/sveri from time to time using cursive. So if you are interested you might join me and I answer a few question so you get a comparison 😉

naomarik08:12:28

@sveri: will do thanks 😉

jaen08:12:01

@naomarik: ah yeah, it seems tenzing is a bit out of date, now that I look at it, yeah. I usually set up a project from the ground myself so wasn't aware that it's a bit out of date, sorry. Good thing you've figured it out though.

pvinis11:12:31

so from the people using emacs/vim for clojure, are there more in emacs, or in vim?

ordnungswidrig11:12:34

@pvinis I'm pretty sure its emacs but let's see what the "state of clojure" tells us this yesr

agile_geek12:12:48

Based on a straw poll from recent Clojure eXchange conference in London emacs user out number vim users by close to 2:1

pvinis12:12:17

im thinking of switching to evil mode from vim, so doing stuff in clojure might push me a bit more to do that

jaen12:12:51

Vim people seem to like spacemacs from what I've seen.

naomarik12:12:11

@pvinis: i've made the switch and it's worth it

dm312:12:08

I've made a switch for a month and went back to vim

pvinis12:12:15

yea i tried spacemaccs for a bit, and it was kindof ok

pvinis12:12:55

but i wanted to start from scratch to understand what spacemacs does etc

pvinis12:12:14

so i might keep using spacemacs for now, and slowly understand emacs

ordnungswidrig12:12:45

I'm a evil-mode user coming from many years of vim (and, before that, elvis) and I'm quite happy.

pvinis13:12:52

do you use evil mode everywhere?

roelof13:12:02

I rather use Cursive

pvinis13:12:02

or do you use emacs keys for anything?

cjmurphy13:12:54

I'm a vi user from way back. Would like to have a repl / editor together, and have a groups of files that can be kept together. I tried spacemacs but could not easily see how the 'group of files' thing worked. I'm thinking of trying fireplace vim next. Does that sound reasonable?

cjmurphy13:12:40

I'm on Windows at the moment. Would be good to be able to drag files from Windows Explorer and those kinds of things.

jaen13:12:16

How about Intellij + Cursive? Though I'm not sure how good their vim emulation is.

jaen13:12:29

That should at least get that "GUI file dragging" part right.

naomarik13:12:22

@pvinis: i use evil mode everywhere, it's kind of natural the way it is. just had a few custom keybindings and settings and i'm able to use it productively

cjmurphy13:12:26

The repl never worked for me - got out of memory error. I noticed DN complain that it has a huge classpath. Little problems like that keep me away for the moment. Also I'm confused as to what namespace it is taking on.

naomarik13:12:48

although my rspec TDD flow in vim is still way faster, i'd have to learn elisp to bring it over and i haven't yet

naomarik13:12:13

so i go back to vim sometimes for quick testing workflow

cjmurphy13:12:17

So just looking for something simple I guess.

naomarik13:12:45

@cjmurphy: what you mean by 'group of files'

naomarik13:12:09

btw, it took me at least 6 tries to get into spacemacs

cjmurphy13:12:16

Files kept together as a group, workgroup it is sometimes called.

pvinis13:12:17

naomarik: i will try it

naomarik13:12:22

with a fulltime job and everything (i've since quit :P)

naomarik13:12:34

ah, don't know waht that is 😜

cjmurphy13:12:39

Textpad calls it a 'workspace'.

naomarik13:12:42

maybe you mean projectile?

naomarik13:12:54

if you working in a git directory you can project find files very easliy

naomarik13:12:59

i love this feature

naomarik13:12:12

and magit for git commits is extremely nice

naomarik13:12:23

somehow my git messages are way more meaningful being able to see the diff in front of me in a nice easy way

naomarik13:12:51

when i ctrl-z into command line vim i would essentially write garbage half the time like "work done"

naomarik13:12:11

https://precursorapp.com/ this is probably the most beastly polished things i've seen. are the developers present in this slack group?

noonian17:12:12

@naomarik: I believe the same guys did the initial work for the circleci frontend, this talk by Brandon Bloom credits them at the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNtQPSUi1iQ

naomarik17:12:33

theyre pretty monstrous aren't they