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ambrosebs02:06:59

thom: anything in particular that could be improved from your core.typed experience?

ambrosebs02:06:44

thomas: ^ rather

martintrojer07:06:52

benedek: love the clr-refactor gifs

martintrojer07:06:16

one thing I kind of miss in the new setup is what refactorings require the nrepl middleware

martintrojer07:06:07

What do you think of a little symbol (*) on the list in the wiki indicating those

benedek07:06:25

thx @martintrojer . fair point. we are still working on the readme/wiki

benedek07:06:51

might revive signaling it.

benedek07:06:58

i guess you still don’t use the middleware, right?

martintrojer07:06:25

I can have a go if you want, not sure what your policies for editing the wiki is

martintrojer07:06:45

(Yeah, still not back on cider after the whole 0.7-SNAPSHOT debacle)

benedek07:06:51

i forwarded your comment to @expez on gitter

benedek07:06:00

he is just editing it

martintrojer07:06:34

what the gitter channel called? simple_smile

korny07:06:51

@ambrosebs: hi from London...

jonpither10:06:56

^ first typo of the day

gjnoonan10:06:57

has @tcrayford turned into a cow I wonder

tcrayford10:06:39

at a previous job, hubot would say "good morning" if you said certain key words in the chat, and as a result we all adopted mispellings of "morning"

thomas10:06:21

I tend to say good moaning

thomas10:06:28

being foreign and all that

korny12:06:18

<cultural_stereotype>G’day</>

agile_geek12:06:03

<adopted_cultural_stereotype>Way aye</>

jonpither13:06:06

it's too damn hot today

jonpither13:06:19

plus I'm nursing a small hangover

jonpither13:06:29

and I've plunged down several react rabbitholes

acron13:06:25

sounds painful

tcrayford13:06:57

@jonpither: what kind of rabbitholes are there to fall into in react (never used it, but definitely curious)

tcrayford13:06:38

@gjnoonan: now time for a nap 😉

jonpither13:06:53

started playing with http://facebook.github.io/fixed-data-table/... but then I want it responsive, and so find a wrapper http://react-components.com/component/responsive-fixed-data-table. But this needs ported on to jscljs or webjars... it's no longer much fun

gjnoonan13:06:01

now back to trying to explain to management the need to clojure as I discovered this morning they said “I don’t think it is the best use of your time"

gjnoonan13:06:08

my reaction was simply WTF!

jonpither13:06:25

Reusing react components is OK, but when they often come with some custom JS for customization, this makes Clojurescript integration more painful

agile_geek13:06:02

@gjnoonan: I don’t even try and use Clojure in work. Any org that hasn’t moved off Java 1.5 really has no appetite for any technical advances - Full Stop.

tcrayford13:06:32

ahhaa java EOL stuff

tcrayford13:06:01

(reminder that everything except java 8 is EOL and won't be patched if/when some huge security bug turns up)

gjnoonan13:06:54

@agile_geek: well I’m in dispute at the moment about how things are running, and how they should be. However I can’t air them here.

gjnoonan13:06:07

suffice to say, I am very annoyed at the moment!

agile_geek13:06:37

@gjnoonan: I feel your pain. I was, until recently, CTO of a small consultancy and even in that position the internal politics meant I struggled to do all that I wanted/needed to. Hence the ‘was’ in that statement. For the moment I’m contracting, role is not exciting but it’s a means to an end.

gjnoonan13:06:00

I was in the same position, but you know how it is .. far less experience friend of the ceo comes on board etc..

agile_geek13:06:47

@gjnoonan: I was the friend of the CEO! Just the COO and others in Sales had more sway than me.

agile_geek13:06:06

@tcrayford: given the business area of the client you would hope security mattered to them but apparently not as much as keeping the ‘oil tanker’ on course!

gjnoonan13:06:11

Anywho, I probably shouldn’t say any more in an open forum with a logbot 😉 lol

tcrayford13:06:36

it's fine, prolly something like 1000 companies in the world take security actually seriously 😉 (and most of those prolly ain't in the fortune 500 or whatever)

gjnoonan13:06:37

pfft who needs security

thomas14:06:53

Almost in London . Does that make me a real London clojurian ?

acron14:06:41

I'm not in London either mate 😛

acron14:06:50

I think there's a few who aren't

acron14:06:35

nor have I ever attended a London Clojurians event 😮

thomas14:06:12

Maybe we are just fake ones in when not in London ? ?

jonpither14:06:11

Milton Keynes is where it's at... there's a convention going on close by with driver cars n stuff

jonpither14:06:41

I tried to enter with my shorts and t-shirts on, I was refused entry

jonpither14:06:00

coming to work in a suit tomorrow, it's still on

thomas14:06:49

You should come to hursley sometime Jon . Shorts and t shirt no problem here.

thomas14:06:13

And sandals as well of course 😋

jonpither14:06:18

Looking at the map... we're talking IBM?

jonpither14:06:44

Looks a nice part of the world

agile_geek15:06:53

@thomas: I think I remember going to Hursley for a mainframe course in CICS or somthing similar about 25 years ago!

thomas15:06:10

Yes CICS gets developed here.

jonpither16:06:00

Are IBM looking into Clojure at all?

otfrom16:06:23

@acron: I s'pose you're sort of a remote London Clojurian? 😉

agile_geek17:06:41

@thomas IBM are still developing CICS? Wow. I know half the legacy world still runs on it but didn’t think much dev effort went on.