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Oh awesome idea @plexus, thank you!

a normal, repl-based workflow in clojure would be along the lines of: • write test, run it in the repl, see it fail • write code, load into repl, run test in repl again, see it pass • refactor, load into repl, run test again

at least normal to me

Thank you @imre! That makes sense. So you rarely if ever run your tests from the command line?

Yeah, I keep that to running the test suite before I push, and CI also runs that

Makes sense. And so if you run your tests in the REPL, does it mean that you have kaocha in your base deps (and also include the “test” path in your base paths?) Currently I have kaocha as an extra-deps in my :test/run alias (and also set the additional path there)

I use Cursive with IntelliJ and that includes its own test runner so I mostly just use that to run tests. I also have kaocha part of my test alias and I sometimes call it from the repl

I'm sure Cider has its own test runner command that doesn't need kaocha

I’ll investigate. Thank you very much for your help!

For a TDD approach, I do what @imre described above. If I am not familiar with the domain or libraries used in the project then I first do repl experiments in a (comment ,,,) for. Those code experiments may form one or more tests and example data. When working on commercial projects I tend to do all of these (preferably using Koacha) • run a specific test (or specific namespace of tests) I am developing in the REPL • run a command line test runner in watch mode to run all tests on file change (ensures saved source code is tested rather than REPL state) - or do a test run before pushing commit(s) • CI test runner in PR to ensure its not just my machine the tests pass, also used for longer running integration tests I use a deps.edn alias to add the kaocha library to the project and keep it out of the main dependencies, e.g.

:test/env
  {:extra-paths ["test"]
   :extra-deps 
     lambdaisland/kaocha {:mvn/version "1.91.1392"}
     org.clojure/test.check {:mvn/version "1.1.1"}}}

To run Koacha as the Emacs Cider Repl, use https://github.com/magnars/kaocha-runner.el https://practical.li/spacemacs/testing/kaocha-test-runner/, not sure if anyone added it to Emacs Doom

@jr0cket Thank you very much, I’ll investigate all that!

Note that you really don't need any separate runner. Just eval (kaocha.repl/run ,,,). I set these registers in my init.el, and have a binding ,, to eval a register, so I can use ,,k to run kaocha.

;; use with ,,<letter>, e.g. `,,g' runs (user/go)
(set-register ?k "#_clj (do (require 'kaocha.repl) (kaocha.repl/run))")
(set-register ?K "#_clj (do (require 'kaocha.repl) (kaocha.repl/run-all))")