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I suggest including location, for some of us hiring managers we have to consider that to conform with compliance rules.

I just double checked the definition of ‘too clever by half’ and I regret using it now; using it here was considerably ruder than what I meant

Sorry Ethan

I thought it was a compliment too, for what it’s worth. I didn’t know there was any negative connotations. I’ll stop saying it to my wife now… 🤣

its okay, i cant read

but i think the assessment is correct that as written - definitely with that about me - it will turn off a segment of potential employers

i'd worry more about it if i was actively searching and dependent on that search

I’ve been hearing that 3 page resume’s are acceptable now, if you have any more you want to add. Otherwise, looks good!

Generally... flip Education to the end, and make it a single pager. Otherwise, LGTM. More generally: As long as a person can skim-read it fast, and an HR system can parse out keywords, it's fine. Here's mine, for what it's worth: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QGPdmm5FJV9Kox3pliJvImQXb3fgJY14/view

I tend to think the opposite at least in terms of font size: I want an old person to be able to read it

PDF zooms quite nicely on screens... almost nobody prints out resumes these days.

What I hear is, it's better to optimize the resume for machine parsing, these days. Odds are, that the person at the other end is looking at some sort of a machine-extracted view of the resume. They will have access to the original PDF, but they'd rather look at the content in a standard-to-them format. This used to be the case almost exclusively at large companies, with high-volume recruiting. But in the 2020s, mid-sized and small companies too are software-driven, and likely to follow suit.

i have a friend who is adamant about the one pager rule, but it is irrelevant to me. Buzzword bingo i think it hilarious and great, but it might be abrasive to some. i like it. Resumes are meant to get you a talk and i think this will be successful at that. This is very good at saying what you did. Lots of resumes describe the position the person did rather than what they did in that position

Personally, my resume has never led to a job offer, in the last 20 years of sending one out. 🤷‍♂️

@adityaathalye what do you mean? resumes don’t get you jobs ever, (modulo extremely rare cases) but they are the beginning of the job process.

I tend to write one, more as an exercise in updating my own brain with talking points.

I mean any job search that has started with the traditional resume + cover letter dance has never landed me an actual role.

ah fair

I recognise that it is a function of how I interview in those pipelines --- I think I usually bomb the coding rounds.

Anyway, I've figured out that I end up in workplaces because of the people there, so I have tended to find people first, then talk to them, and then find out what they need, and then propose work.

I like printing a resume on manilla paper and handing it to people

thats been my strategy of choice

Yeah, I too like to laser-print on high-quality paper (but I no longer do that). If that is your preference, I suggest doing test prints to figure out what sort of typesetting works best. Bigger text isn't necessarily always better, when it comes to print.

im not actively applying yet so that might wait, but noted

oh, I missed this one: please add contact information right up top... email, website, linkedin and/or mastodon

other than my email I only have my bluesky which i should not put on my resume

https://bsky.app/profile/mccue.dev

well, then email and http://mccue.dev it is

Definitely the buzzword bingo shows you know how this game works 😁 and yeah you add useful info for the few ones who might bother to actually read. To me 👍👍👍 great profile to be fair

As a long-time hiring manager, I'd ask for two changes here: 1) add an introductory paragraph that tells me what kind of work you enjoy and what you bring to the table 2) move the education section to the end; once you're 5+ years out of university, pretty much no one cares about your degree I like the "Buzzword Bingo" as a tongue-in-cheek alternative to the traditional "Skills" or "Technologies" section that everyone has. I like the humor in the mistake/rewrite at Lumanu -- as a hiring manager, I'd definitely want to know more about that and would probably request HR bring you in for an interview just on the basis of that 🙂

the things from intuit/facebook were what i wrote in 2020 - i think my writing style has evolved a bit since then and im basically incapable of being totally serious anymore

can you give me some examples of that kind of introductory paragraph?

this is what i've been using for applying to speak at conferences (I will get to speak about caveman at conj one of these years ✊): > Ethan McCue is a software developer and international conference speaker. His job is to make banking software for the creator economy, but outside of that > > he is passionate about education and the way the systems we build define the world around us. Ethan lives and works in Massachusetts and when he’s not writing code he asks strangers if he can pet their dogs.

I don't know how many folks have posted resumes here that you could take a look at. Not sure how I feel about potentially posting examples of that from resumes folks have sent me privately...

• Too much space is taken up by your name, and you shouldn't put a grey background around it, especially if you expect to print it. Your contact info should be at the top along with your name. • I would move education to the end and put work experience front and center. • I don't think the bullet points following your project descriptions are necessary, as all of those descriptions are a single bullet point anyway. • Reduce the length of the description of your coop so that the résumé (and yes, it is 100% worth being particular about this spelling) fits on one page Other advice I would give just rehashes https://practicaltypography.com/resumes.html.

> and you shouldn't put a grey background around it, Yeah that was some google docs nonsense, i fixed that

> • Reduce the length of the description of your coop so that the résumé (and yes, it is 100% worth being particular about this spelling) fits on one page In the link you sent it says > The biggest problem I see with résumés is that they’re uncomfortably dense with text. I take this to be the influence of the myth that a résumé can only be one page long. Unless a potential employer demands one page, feel free to make your résumé longer, if necessary. This will ease your typographic problems.

Two pages is fine.

YMMV (you have a lot more public projects to brag about than I do), but I wasn't extending my résumé to two pages until my 3rd or 4th job after college. Removing the footnote might also give you space on the first page - generally speaking, it's kind of implied that references are available when an employer asks.

how is this @seancorfield?

I would avoid using the term "deceptive" to describe myself to an employer

okay here is the updated one

It isn't very... personal... it is kinda marketing-speak.

when i was in 3rd grade our teacher, Ms. Madigan, had us write a weekly "what did I do this weekend" journal entry

I stopped after week 2 and they all just read "didn't have fun" - I have a lot of trouble writing about myself when it isn't concrete or for a purpose (even if that purpose is framing for a bit)

i don't really understand what I should be conveying exactly

I hate working and my goal is to make it so that I have to do as little work with as much downtime as possible

its only by coincidence that means i try real hard when building stuff the first time

FWIW, I don't have a "summary" section on my résumé, and when I was in a position to review résumés, I never found them informative as compared with the candidate's descriptions of their responsibilities, and they also tend to just be vague restatements of similar things that would be in a cover letter accompanying the résumé. I don't think they're necessary if you prefer to describe your experience in more direct terms.

About Me I once punched a Japanese boxer on live TV. The experience of giving it my all and not being able to inflict any damage was emasculating. I spent the next 2 months doing push ups before giving up.

that one is real i have the video

About Me I made almost every major decision of my life in failed attempts to impress women.

About Me Wasted my 20s and my 10s, but being age 0-9 was pretty sweet.

About Me I bring a much needed levity to any work situation. I also bring unneeded levity. I'm bringing the levity.

🤣

I'll take that 💯 as a go with that one

Too clever by half

My background is very corporate though, so YMMV

Well thanks everyone who helped - Job did layoffs and now I actually do need this resume