Clojurians Log v2

Saw this in 2018 at a company with origins in German academia. I was told by a third party it was a cultural norm from some aspect of "there".

Sounds extreme.

I sincerely hope it is not the "new normal" as it is an outrageous liberty to be taking with people's time. I recently went through a recruitment process, for a job I ultimately got and am starting on Monday next week, which included a "take home" task, but the company were clear that it should be no more than 3-4 hours' work and that an incomplete submission on that time box was still worthwhile rather than them expecting me to simply pour hours of my own time into it. Now I assume that if I had not completed the task and other candidates had, that may have counted against me in terms of speed of work / productivity etc., but other than that this felt like an equitable approach to reasonable vetting. A "test" consisting of 1-2 days' coding, unpaid, before even discussing remuneration seems beyond onerous and quite unfair to me.

Heh, when I applied as a talent for Toptal, their filtering process at the time had five steps, with one of them being a two-weeks task. Well, they had a deadline after two weeks, the actual task has taken me probably a couple of days.

Yikes! Did that make you feel good about applying or did it make you question them as an employer?

Hiring process is for both sides. This speaks more about the company itself and your future colaboration.

You can share your concerns with the company, if you are unable to have a real conversation then it's all lost from the beginning.

> Did that make you feel good about applying or did it make you question them as an employer? Neither. I didn't really care about the process and I used that opportunity to learn Python. Similar with Clojure - my first serious usage of it was a test task for a job that didn't even use Clojure. :)

> You can share your concerns with the company, if you are unable to have a real conversation then it's all lost from the beginning. I tried doing that but maybe I didn't communicate well haha. In the end I think their pipeline must be full 😅

I currently wait for 4 hours of interviews after working for one day on a similar task. It is a new normal. It's terrible. I have no idea since when the "Oh, you're suitable for the task -- let me hire you" went away.

I could hazard a guess that it has something to do with HR

Every time HR is involved I'm hired way more rarely 😄 Seems cursed

Sounds like you might be an engineer 😉