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Any freelancers in here who work with new startups and wouldn’t mind reviewing a cold email pitch?
Happy to help if you'd like more eyes on it. No worries if you've got everything you need already 😉
Hey everyone, I just wanted to give you all a heads up about fake recruiters. I made a bit of a blunder by applying to a job on LinkedIn. It required a http://Dice.com account, where I filled out all my personal information, including my phone number, and made my profile public. By the next day, I got a ceaseless barrage of phone calls. These callers even changed their caller ID to match my area code (I still have a California number, despite not living there anymore). Even after I took down my phone number, they keep pestering me via email and LinkedIn. The position is always the same - a contract-to-hire, Clojure job, working remotely for Comcast in PA. Driven by curiosity, I did what they asked - filled out a form with my personal info. Sometimes, they'd even ask for my date of birth and the last four digits of my social security number, but I made sure not to disclose those. However, none of these so-called recruiters ever got back to me with an update. So, be careful. And good luck.
Thanks for the heads up though!
I'm definitely going to kill my http://Dice.com profile. LinkedIn though, I'm not sure. Probably should delete it altogether as well. I don't know why I still have it. I never managed to find a job through LinkedIn.
I never answer my phone to a number I don't recognize. Callers can go to voicemail if it's important. Or use email where I have written paper trail.
Good to know I am looking and sing linked in not seen http://dice.com but will keep an eye out, What sites do people consider good job boards out of interest I am in UK, I have found otta and cord quite good but the number of jobs are far lower than linkedin.
I know about the clojure job boards but looking at other jobs as no one is really recruiting in the clojure world at the moment.
I got my highest paying job (by a large margin) of my career via a recruiter that found my LinkedIn profile. This also kick started my official commercial Clojure experience (rather than sneaking it in). I have never been too aggressively been hounded on LinkedIn, In fact this year has been relatively quiet. From my own experience, LinkedIn is the least worse approach (as I don't need to give out any contact info)
certainly had quite a few approach me, at the moment though you go up against lots of other candidates, I kind of hate using it for job hunting kind of feels you have to engage more with the network for it to work, but there is so much junk on there it does not entice me 😕 I think its a necessary evil though for now
How do you know this is fake? Unfortunately I think ghosting has become very common now, even for real openings.
In the case of the one that I saw, the email wasn’t from a company, it was a gmail account that then told me to contact another person at a different email address that wasn’t a company address. When I looked up the company, I couldn’t find them--not even on LinkedIn. When I looked up the job posting on LinkedIn it had been removed. They sent me another email yesterday but this time they made it seem like it was from the company domain. When I go to that domain in my browser, nothing comes up.
How do you know this is fake? The recruiters in my case were very aggressive. If you don't pick up the phone, they call you with a different caller-ID. Even when I told them that I'm already working with a recruiter for this particular position (and again, for some reason it was the same job), they would still insist that they want to submit it, because "you're the great fit for it". The next thing, and it's always the same, they ask you to fill out a form with your personal details. DO NOT GIVE THEM your date of birth (it's illegal to discriminate based on your DOB, ergo nobody should be asking for it during the application process), and never give away your SSN or home address. I guess they are simply collecting data. For what reasons, I don't know, but it's not to help you get hired.
Here's another one, dropped a message while I was typing my reply above: > Job Opportunity for Clojure Engineer with 100% > Remote > Job title: Clojure Engineer > Location: 100% Remote > Only W2 > Must Have Skills: > · Clojure programming language > · sql and not data stores > · frontend (reactjs / Clojure script / typescript, etc.) I'm pretty sure it's the same BS like before
I never answer my phone to a number I don't recognize. Callers can go to voicemail if it's important. Or use email where I have written paper trail.Same. I configure my phone's "Do not disturb" pretty aggressively (only starred contacts can interrupt me). Also, no voicemail because it just gets filled with spam and I can't be bothered to screen and delete them. Anyone who really wants to reach me can text or email me personally. If I do pick up an unknown, and it is a solicitation of some kind, I tell them to please send me an official email to my address on their file (without disclosing my details). That ends it usually.
I'm also seeing a lot of fake recruiters. Here on Latin America they tend to win by trying a "glamour" approach - like, "hey, I have some great partners with high-end companies in Silicon Valley, and your profile is a great match so..."
The good thing is that most are lazy and always mention "great companies in Silicon Valley" so it's easy to spot
@UMJED2JHY so they’re just hoping you’re desperate and eventually they’ll ask you for a fee for something? is that the scam?
From what I’ve read, they’re phishing for PII and/or ultimately trying to con people into sending them money.
ah pii is an obvious one, right
I don't know the mechanics of the recruiting from the hiring side, but it got me thinking, is it possible for the scammers to use your data and once you find a job, attempt to extort some fee from the employer, posing as the recruiter that represents you?
Update: just received an email from http://Dice.com: > Dice has received reports that individuals have been receiving messages from senders claiming to be Dice recruiters on > various messaging apps. The messages claim that there is an opportunity for the recipient. The messages appear to be > phishing attempts. These individuals are in no way affiliated with Dice. > Please review this https://www.dice.com/career-advice/heads-up-tech-professionals-phishing-scam for tips on how best to interact with legitimate recruiters when searching for jobs.