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daveliepmann 2024-01-08T10:32:40.489799Z

Major Pitch layoffs today šŸ˜• https://twitter.com/christianreber/status/1744292271858622518

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seancorfield 2024-01-08T17:20:39.542219Z

This sucks but it's definitely one of the big risks with VC backing and the focus on super-hot growth -- because VCs are always all about valuation and growth for their investment, rather than sustainability for the company itself. It's a really bad model, IMO. I've worked for both VC-backed startups and self-funded startups -- and also pounded Sand Hill Road and Mountain View pitching for VC funding -- and I would never go the VC route again (but I understand the lure of all those millions of dollars, trust me!).

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zane 2024-01-08T20:44:40.667179Z

It's a really bad modelIt really depends on what you're trying to achieve. There are many types of startups that would be unviable without VC funding.

seancorfield 2024-01-08T20:53:45.968999Z

Sure, there are companies that need funding to get off the ground -- VCs aren't the only way to do that, and it's the predatory model of the VCs themselves I'm railing against, not the funding per se.

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zane 2024-01-08T20:58:30.719919Z

What I mean is: There are types of startups that are aiming to launch in a market where "hyper-growth" is necessary in order to compete. If you're trying to launch in that kind of market it's hard to justify not taking VC funding.

seancorfield 2024-01-08T21:17:53.546639Z

Heh, I'm not sure those types of startups are actually a good thing -- a lot of these "hyper-growth" startups are supposedly "disruptive" which just means they want to skirt around regulations and ethics, IMO.

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seancorfield 2024-01-08T21:18:15.975779Z

VCs encourage that sort of thinking...

seancorfield 2024-01-08T21:20:21.822139Z

Several of the big VC firms are extremely unethical in their approach to what they fund and what they won't. Silicon Valley is big on money and short on ethics, a lot of the time (and remember I live in the Bay Area).

seancorfield 2024-01-08T21:21:05.050169Z

VCs might be better behaved where you live šŸ™‚

zane 2024-01-09T00:52:16.495379Z

Oh no, definitely not. šŸ˜…

zane 2024-01-09T00:52:25.772329Z

I’m no fan of VCs as a category.

mauricio.szabo 2024-01-09T22:52:18.684259Z

I wrote about it at my blog once, but the TL;DR for me is: as a consumer, these "disruptive" companies always make their products worse. Because they have a lot of money in the beginning and don't care about profit, and are growing faster than speed of light, their product is amazing... ... up to the point where they need to be profitable, then the product starts to degrade a lot and sometimes, there are no other players because the VC-backed destroyed them...

Sam Ferrell 2024-01-08T22:22:16.697899Z

but... 2024 was supposed to be the rebound

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lwhorton 2024-01-08T23:18:50.740339Z

unity decided at the end of 2023 they were starting a speedrun any% of their bankruptcy.

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