Clojurians Log v2

I'd ask the company what the salary range was before applying if I could.

makes sense

I try to chase those up on here when I can do (easy for me as I'm not applying for the job)

There are also websites like GlassDoor.

funny thing is, when looking up salaries for a mid-level java-dev it says 75.000 Euro but I guess that only stands for large corps.

smaller companies are more like 65000

I guess

Try applying via a contact in the company? if I don't know anyone I try randomly connecting to people in the similar positions/departments I want to apply to

I would see it as a good filter. If a company doesn’t want to talk to you just for providing a normal market range for that position, you don’t want to experience their “culture” anyways.

Also, salary expectations are always considered in pair with your experience/skillset. If they answer you that there is a lack of experience/skills in general, then it might be a feedback regarding (salary) expectation. If they say that regarding their role, they just wanted to have someone more junior. Anyways, for the people you can get a hold of (also e.g. recruiters), ask for their feedback, and you will see whether it’s plausible. There are so many reasons why companies reject people right now. Sometimes they just have the fear of missing out and that’s why their ad is live, but realistically are not keen to hire anyone right now.

I usually reply with something along the lines of, “I’m looking for a total compensation package that is commensurate with my skills and experience.” That tells them that a) you’re not going to give them a number based on the salary at your last job and, b) that you’re willing to discuss overall compensation, not just a single number. If they press the issue on previous salary (or current, if I’m still with another employer) then’ll I’ll straight-up tell them it has little relationship to this job.

I’ve personally followed the advice outlined here https://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/01/23/salary-negotiation/ Specifically, the “Never Give A Number First” section. Once in a position where it makes sense to discuss these numbers, it helps to look at websites like levels.fyi and see if there is data for the company you’re interested in The worst thing you can do is probably tell an interviewer what your current salary is since chances are that will become a hard upper limit for your base pay. (In fact, in some jurisdictions, it is actually illegal for employers to ask for your current salary or past salaries)

If no one will provide a salary range then I say "its negotiable", or , "I am sure the company will give me a fair offer" Until you know the details of a job, how can you determine what the salary should be anyway. If being pressed to give a figure from a current role, you can state that salary information is considered privileged and you are not at liberty to share those details. A very specific answer I used to use with the most annoying (UK) recruiters was "more than a tube driver, less than a banker".