I don't envision any substantial negatives for the community. I find that Clojure ecosystem is stable in a good way in more than just the language itself. And stability in the world of turmoil is a much welcome haven.

As far as I know most of the big/news-worthy layoffs have not been of Clojure developers. So little direct impact there. In terms of indirect impact, here are some possibilities: • Some of the laid off developers may decide to learn Clojure / join the community • Some of the laid off developers may go and start startups which use Clojure • Some junior developers will stop trying to get hired by these Big Tech companies (which often require mainstream programming languages) and find a good Clojure company to join instead.

Agree with @UJVEQPAKS, directly not much. This is the upside of being an obscure niche populated by True Believers(tm). Indirectly, I see the noise this asteroid strike makes will wipe out the idea that "Hey, I can go to code camp and make $$$" and that crowd will leave tech, and do so faster than these tech giants shed staff. Not sure what that means for Clojure. Code camps may struggle. Agreed also the best developers will be the most likely to appreciate Clojure and come explore, especially with money in the bank and (guessing) decent severance terms including down time to explore/recharge. Overall, 🤷.

Ps. Jobs steady at 500 for third month straight. Old normal was 800. https://kennytilton.github.io/whoishiring/

Could we have a graph of these job counts for each technology on a by-month basis? This would be somewhat of a proof what has changed and how much :thinking_face:

Well, left as an exercise... HTML scrapes of AskHN going back three years are here: https://github.com/kennytilton/kennytilton.github.io/tree/master/whoishiring/files The app was originally done in JS, but a CLJS port was done, and the code that parses the HTML is here: https://github.com/kennytilton/matrix/blob/main/cljc/whoshiring/src/whoshiring/job_parse.cljs

Big tech salaries pushed up pay across the industry; I think that's done for a bit. I don't think the Clojure world is immune to layoffs. Many/most Clojure shops are VC-funded and are facing the same funding worries as other startups.

I'm hoping that it will tamp down salary expectations in the Bay Area at least -- Big Tech has made it a ridiculously "hot" market here and it has made it almost impossible for smaller companies to hire local people because they just can't compete with the stupid money that Big Tech offers (and, of course, the period of high salaries we've had has also pushed the cost of living up for everyone since Big Tech employees can afford higher prices so there's nothing pressuring shops/landlords/etc to keep prices reasonable). I've lived here since '99 -- through the massive bubble bursting shortly after -- and there was a very pleasant "reset effect" for several years after that. Everyone's been predicting the current bubble will burst "soon" for years (articles back in 2015 were saying "This can't last!" and that message has just gotten louder since then). (I love living in the Bay Area but I detest Silicon Valley and the whole VC culture around startups/unicorns and Big Tech!)