Possibly. At least Apple has had job postings before looking for folks that know Clojure.

Nice :)

In any case, I suspect it will be very team specific, and the org's IT policy will loom large. Basically, I think there is zero chance of a "sure thing", if it has to be checked into the team's source control. If you have liberty to install your own IDE / dev tools, well then have at it, I say! What happens on one's box stays on one's box... Although it will all be corporate property if one develops the tooling on the corporate box.

Thanks :)

Counterpoint: how would you feel if a peer created scripts in ruby, or zig, or groovy because it feels more productive to them?

Good point. It already occurred to me and I did not mind. What mattered was the style of the script (well defined pure functions and good name).

Is it not at the same level as IDE choice if the code does not leak into production code?

Counter-counterpoint (a bit tongue-in-cheek): I write my https://github.com/adityaathalye/bash-toolkit. Bash is ubiquitous. Nobody wants to use Bash 😅

Hahaha

In other words, whenever one has to do things by consensus, one has a consensus problem :D

Bash is the only common shell allowed at GOOG, by the way. Their style guide is quite nice. https://google.github.io/styleguide/shellguide.html

It is funny in the first paragraph they outright say that if the script becomes too big, just use a more structured lang xD

But, I'm of the view that with FP discipline, one can achieve a tremendous amount in a few tens to a few hundred lines of Bash. The "whoa, there, ease up" limit in my head is ~1 KLoC of FP-style Bash.

In that sense, I draw upon ideas in Clojure (as well as the Unix tools philosophy), to make it all out of data-oriented, pipeline-friendly pure functions.

I use bash in team settings, with shellcheck and a set -Eeuxo pipefail it's a decently maintainable language it does have a limit, but when that limit is surpassed, instead of reaching for a "nicer scripting language", I'd simply make a program in whatever is our main lang of choice

Even if that lang is R? XD

I've been blogging about FP-style bash here: https://www.evalapply.org/tags/bash/ And https://github.com/adityaathalye/shitehttps://github.com/adityaathalye/shitehttps://github.com/adityaathalye/shite on a little SSG, complete with hot-build and hot-reloading, only with shell tools. The core logic is about 250 LoC Bash 🤓 (minus HTML template code).

Speaking from experience of not being able to install my own IDE (no sudo permissions), standalone executables, the jvm and compiling things yourself can go far 🙂