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zendevil.eth17:06:32

I started a startup and it had been my full time job, but since I hadn’t raised a funding round and need money to pay student loans and afford living expenses, I’m looking for SE jobs. My plan is to work at another company for salary and pull the plug as soon as a major funding round is closed. Is it a good idea to tell the hiring company that I started my current company? Wouldn’t they smell that I’m actively looking for VC and could defect as soon as I raise a funding round? And wouldn’t it be dishonest to not share my primary motivation to join and my future plans?

eggsyntax17:06:25

Good thing no one hiring in the clojure community ever looks in here or they might really take that the wrong way... Post edited to be somewhat less suggestive of dishonest intentions. Retracted 🙂

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Darrell18:06:07

Maybe do contracting/consulting instead since that can be open-ended from the start?

seancorfield18:06:49

Wouldn't that startup be on your resume anyway, so anyone interviewing you is going to see it and ask you about it during the interview process? (and if you lie and they figure that out, when you suddenly quit to deal with funding, they may well sue you...)

p-himik18:06:24

Interesting, I've never heard about such things before. Is CV considered a legal document? Or how does that work?

seancorfield18:06:09

Not about the CV. About misrepresentation. If the CV lists some employment and you're asked about it during the interview and you lie to get the job -- that's potentially opening you up to a lawsuit.

zendevil.eth18:06:36

Also IP lawsuit if you work concurrently

seancorfield18:06:17

Yup, that too, since many employment contracts have pretty brutal IP clauses 😞 I usually try to get those changed or at least an appendix with specific exceptions added.

seancorfield18:06:52

I would definitely advocate honesty during an interview -- but as others have suggested, maybe contract-based work would make things easier, if you're really planning to devote yourself to your startup if you can get funding...

p-himik18:06:20

Thanks! > The general principle of misrepresentation has been adopted by the USA and various Commonwealth countries That's probably why I never heard about it. :) Or maybe I'm just not in the know, but a common approach to such things in Russia is to either put it in contract and make it binding ("I promise that I have such experience and if not, I shall be taken accountable") or to not care about such things at all and just make the first month a "testing" one.

seancorfield18:06:14

"contract-to-hire" is a pretty common approach in some places -- sometimes three months of "probation".

p-himik18:06:21

Yes, that's what I meant. :) Quite nice when it exists in the legal framework.

eckardjf19:06:30

Are there any Clojure-focused resume review / interview prep / job search coaching services? I feel like most of what I see is tailored for FAANG positions which might be overkill or at least not a good match (though I may be wrong about that).

seancorfield19:06:23

I wish that FAANG interview style would not be adopted by other companies -- it's a horrible approach (and even the FAANG companies seem to agree, but they're so flooded with applications that they have very little incentive to change).

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seancorfield19:06:31

"Prep" for an interview should really be about making sure you understand enough about the company to be able to talk about why you want to work for them specifically and what you bring to the table for them. And make sure your resume/CV is clearly-written and that you are comfortable talking in-depth about your experience.

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seancorfield19:06:03

(tech interviews are like a giant pet peeve of mine since most companies are just awful at interviewing)

eckardjf19:06:00

I agree - sounds reasonable. As someone interviewing again for the first time in years and trying to transition to Clojure I thought maybe I should try one to help avoid wasting an opportunity.