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2019-05-27
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demus07:05:09

Can Upwork or similar service solve the issue with hiring someone outside US/UK?

kardan08:05:03

We have entities in some countries (main one The Netherlands) and then all remote workers are self employed contractors on yearly contracts. To be honest I’m not sure about pro / cons but setting up legal entities everywhere sounds like a nightmare to me

demus08:05:07

My point is using some platform, where you just have relationships with a platform and hiring approach will be the same regardless of worker’s country. May this approach work for US/UK?

vemv08:05:28

a couple Spanish engineers from another Slack say they work for the US/etc via these https://www.baldockservices.eu/en/international-payroll/ https://www.thepolyglotgroup.com.au/

dominicm09:05:43

This was recommended a lot to hashicorp. I think the reason hashicorp can't use these services is due to the fact they want to hand out stocks.

seancorfield18:05:51

Contract staff aren't covered by any benefits from the company either -- and having fewer FTEs means the company can't negotiate benefits effectively. Small companies (in terms of employees) have a much harder time dealing with insurance, so it's better for the company to hire directly instead of using contract companies.

dominicm19:05:53

I suppose the businesses you actually work for can provide benefits.

seancorfield19:05:44

In theory. Those body shop style places often don't because they mostly want contract staff rather than employees (they're sort of the opposite of the company you'd ultimately be working for) 🙂

dominicm19:05:03

I'm not sure how the relationship works for companies where someone comes to you, and then you use them as a middleman.

dominicm19:05:12

I suspect you're right, but it's hard to know 🙂