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I now have about 6 years working experience with java, mostly backend web development. In almost 2 years I did several let projects, using Luminus and Clojure-nginx for the backend, and plain clojurescript and re-frame for the front-end. Say I would like to eventually go for a clojure job, what would be the best investment? I could create my own 'blog' website, making it easier to communicate what I did. Start contributing to some existing libraries, or maybe create my own library, or maybe some more pet projects with things like om-next fulcro or hoplon?


@gklijs [cynical thought] Physically moving to the place where Clojure jobs are seems to be the best option.


@dottedmag that's not an option now, living together with my girlfriend and her kids, maybe in 10 years it might.


Oh, I can relate to that.


@gklijs A candidate with six years of worth of java experience and some side-projects in clojure would definitively be interesting for a Clojure job, and I would certainly have had an interview with such a candidate.


Again, I'm only speaking for my self, but the cover-letter/CV is almost only interesting in the sense that it will get you an interview.


In the interview, I'm much more interested in seeing if you are a person I can bounce ideas at. Also, I need to feel certain that you'll do the job, eg deliver on the tasks assigned.


@gklijs so, given, if I were to receive a cover letter like


Dear Erik Bakstad,

I found you job-posting for "Clojure Engineer" on the Clojurians #jobs
channel, and would very much like to apply for it.

I am a 32 years old programmer with six years of professional Java
development behind me. Allthough I haven't worked professionally with
Clojure, I've done several side projects in Clojure as you can see
from my github profile.

I've worked extensively with web-technologies during my career, and
even though I'm not familiar with information retreival systems, I'd
be motivated by the opportunity to learn something new.

Looking forward to hearing from you.


You'd be secured an interview.


There is nothing special in this cover-letter, other than the fact that it shows that you've read the job-posting.


@slipset I suppose the cover letter should also end with "I'm located in Oslo" or "I'm willing to relocate to Oslo, and I'm EU/EEA citizen/permanent resident of EU"?


For this position, yes.


Actually, I would take that for granted, but that's just because I'm old and not used to this new-fangled remote-working business.


Well, I guess someone could have told you that Malta isn't exactly the epicenter of Clojure jobs. But I guess you knew that 🙂


I did. I didn't expect in-office mentality still holds sway so strongly.


Actually, out of 15 years of my work experience, I only spent 6 in any kind of office (3 first years before I knew better, and 3 years later when I needed a local job for visa purposes).


which country have you used to enter EU and got permanent residence?


@U051091NM Not even a EU country: Norway


so basically, after 3 years in Norway on working visa, you could apply to PR and then live anywhere in Europe?


Not really. After 3 years in Norway I've applied and got permanent residence permit. I stayed in Norway further until I was naturalized, and now, naturally, I can live/work anywhere in EU/EEA


How much time spent on naturalization?


thanks, i’m just asking because sometimes numbers on paper differ from real experience. Anyway, thanks for the answers!


In Norway numbers on paper are always real 🙂