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jgh03:01:26

not sure how accurate this is, but pretty brutal if true

jgh03:01:55

tl;dr extending past 6 years won’t be allowed if you’re waiting in line for GC

seancorfield04:01:33

A lot of people get caught up in virtual slave labor with H-1B visas -- their companies essentially holding them hostage -- and as someone who has gone thru the E-2 visa process, followed by work permit / residency and then naturalization, I have pretty mixed feelings about the way H-1B visas are issued, administered, and used -- especially by IT companies.

seancorfield04:01:31

A friend of mine got an H-1B visa through a company on the East Coast and his working conditions were awful -- and the company kept threatening to stop the sponsorship / process and force him to go back home. I've heard plenty of other horror stories about H-1B visas that are similar.

jgh04:01:03

i havent been on h1b myself, but I have been on TN and O-1, and have employed people on H1-B. I definitely think that the USA could take a page out of the book of other countries when it comes to work permits. H-1B is pretty awful as far as work permits around the world go. But I don’t know if the solution is to send people who are in line for a green card back to their home country for a bunch of years instead of keeping them in the US.

jgh04:01:22

iirc EU blue card you can change jobs after 6 mos or 1 year or so.

jgh04:01:35

i think you can even change countries on it

jgh04:01:51

plus your spouse can work too, which is a big plus

jgh04:01:34

although with the ROW wait time being 0 right now i wonder if you can apply for a green card out of country and wait the 6mos-1yr for the PERM to go through.

jgh04:01:51

that would be faster/less RNG than H1B anyhow

petterik16:01:14

I have - and I have friends that have - been employed on an H1B visa and it's been a great experience. We had the same working conditions as our US citizen colleagues.

petterik16:01:39

We all worked in San Francisco

scriptor16:01:33

h1b's hired by companies to supplement existing teams generally work pretty well

scriptor16:01:34

the worst offenders IMO are the "h1b mills" that hire them en mass and then use them as contractors

seancorfield16:01:44

@scriptor Yeah, that's the abusive side of H-1B that kind of spoils it for everyone else 😞 @petterik I'm glad to hear not all H-1B experiences are bad! But working in SF probably helps there since there's so much tech and so many companies willing to sponsor visas.