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luxbock13:03:14

@thedavidmeister I did in fact mean clojure.spec

luxbock13:03:31

as in I have written specs that validate the output I'm expecting from the job

thedavidmeister13:03:04

well look, i don't see that many clients writing their own tests

thedavidmeister13:03:10

so kudos for that at least 🙂

luxbock13:03:55

I already have a reference implementation with every function documented and specced out, so the job is just modifying the structure of those slightly and writing new grammar rules in Instaparse

luxbock13:03:32

so that's why I was looking for someone to do it on the cheap, as I think it should be a fairly mechanical process

luxbock13:03:45

I could easily do it on my own but I'm running out of time

thedavidmeister13:03:07

yeah but you've heard the old story about the doctor that charged $10 for the cut and $990 for knowing where to cut? 😉

luxbock13:03:08

I got a few people applying for the ad so we'll see how it goes, I will learn something new in any case

thedavidmeister13:03:23

like i said, it may well be suitable for someone junior

thedavidmeister13:03:47

but i'll share with you that i have had experiences in the past where i've been on a tight deadline

thedavidmeister13:03:05

reached out to contractors to help take the load off, they underestimated the work required because they didn't have the skills

thedavidmeister13:03:27

then i ended up needing to do more work because i had to fix what they did and it was even closer to dday >.<

luxbock13:03:38

yeah, luckily the deadline for this is job is not so tight, but I have other stuff I need to get done, so I figured it would be nice to get something else done in parallel

thedavidmeister13:03:52

in that case you might be OK

thedavidmeister13:03:17

it either works out and you're ahead, or you do it yourself anyway

thedavidmeister13:03:01

i recommend you set aside time to review their code though

thedavidmeister13:03:23

making tests pass doesn't = correct code

luxbock13:03:55

yeah of course 🙂

luxbock13:03:23

but it made me think about how valuable spec can be for delegating work to others

luxbock13:03:11

since it should reduce the amount of feedback the person working on the problem needs from the delegater

thedavidmeister13:03:34

i'm not a TDD person, but i 100% agree that automated tests are invaluable for growing a dev team and keeping your sanity

thedavidmeister13:03:38

there's simply no way you can achieve the same thing in a reasonable timeframe with docs and manual code review alone

thedavidmeister13:03:44

also, if you find someone great at clojure who works for $20 an hour, send me their details 😉

thedavidmeister13:03:03

i've got tons of work to send that person

akond14:03:11

i'd like to try

akond14:03:22

i have tons of experience in php, got involved with clojure about a year ago

akond14:03:27

i've been thinking about mild transition to cljs job, but don't want to loose my current position