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cky02:04:31

@tjg: It takes active effort to create a remote-friendly work environment. My last job, at Stack Overflow, had many tools and processes in place to enable effective remote work. Search for “Why we (still) believe in working remotely” on the Stack Overflow blog for some ideas, or feel free to ping me for specifics.

borkdude06:04:01

@cky: why did you leave? simple_smile

dottedmag10:04:29

https://github.com/hola/challenge_word_classifier -- winners will definitely be approached by the HR. Posting it here as the company is not using Clojure, nor ClojureScript, but the challenge is cljs-friendly.

danielcompton10:04:00

Might be a challenge getting Cljs in under 64k?

dottedmag10:04:48

Last time I checked generated js was quite compact, so it's not about cljs, but about dictionary compression.

thomas10:04:20

@dottedmag: interesting challenge… certainly got me thinking.

martinklepsch18:04:25

@becca_funding_circle: cool, I didn’t know you’re in Berlin as well. Do you have devs in Berlin?

cky20:04:19

Thanks! 😄

jrotenberg22:04:57

on the “remote” topic

jrotenberg22:04:24

there is a huge difference between companies that “let you work remote” vs companies that make an effort to make it work

jrotenberg22:04:27

in my experience

jrotenberg22:04:11

and in bigger companies it can vary between depts.

cky22:04:36

@jrotenberg: Right, exactly the point I was making re how Stack Overflow did things (which was a remote-supporting workflow), vs other companies where remote workers are second-class.

jrotenberg22:04:14

the last time i was looking around i usually brought that issue up right away

jrotenberg22:04:20

and not even for a full time remote

jrotenberg22:04:30

just the ability to wfh 2-3 days/week

jrotenberg22:04:06

it seemed to vary wildly between “yeah, most of us telecommute x days per week” and “ …. well, maybe once you’ve been here for a few months"

jrotenberg22:04:28

but yeah, the full remote thing is a whole other issue

cky22:04:37

Right, yeah. It’s surprising how many things there are to consider with making remote workers first-class. For example, at Stack Overflow, even in-office people tend to use Hangouts to talk to each other so that others (possibly remote) can be brought in at a moment’s notice without disrupting the meeting.

jrotenberg22:04:05

yeah, thats huge

jrotenberg22:04:17

many times in the past i’ve missed out on conversations because i wasn’t in the office

jrotenberg22:04:23

thats a culture thing for sure

cky22:04:31

There is functionality built into the in-house chat system so that a single “hangout @jrotenberg” command in chat will bring up a Hangout link that looks like http://g.co/hangouts/cky-jrotenberg

cky22:04:51

so you can just tab-complete someone and spin up a hangout quickly.

jrotenberg22:04:18

its hard to live in the bay area and find a full time remote position that pays what you’d make at a local company

jrotenberg22:04:28

at least that was the case when i tried about 4 years ago

jrotenberg22:04:36

have to move somewhere cheaper

jrotenberg22:04:49

or maybe find a company somewhere else expensive like new york

cky22:04:49

I used to work for a Bay Area company remotely, getting paid Bay Area rates. It was actually very nice.

jrotenberg22:04:14

bay area rates but not living in the bay area is the way to go

jrotenberg22:04:21

malta looks nice!

dottedmag22:04:48

Yep. Warm, cheap, English-speaking, good schools, Schengen area (so, no hassle moving as self-employed).