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2019-05-15
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jouerose15:05:41

hello, I have been using hoplon to dev an a web app prototype which must "pivot" into a native mobile app. I like hoplon and was wondering whether there was a pathway from Hoplon to native mobile app. thank you for your help

alandipert15:05:27

i know @micha has done research recently on this, he might have some insight

jouerose16:05:28

@alandipert thanks. i am eager to know what @micha knows 🙂

alandipert16:05:09

he was on here this morning, so i bet with enough @micha mentions he can be summoned 😄

dave18:05:14

he's like beetlejuice

jouerose20:05:00

i am going to knock on his ( @micha) door too 🙂

micha20:05:15

i was pretty hopeful for JavaFXports

micha20:05:03

i've used http://trigger.io in the past, it was fine

micha20:05:32

it depends though

micha20:05:18

what's your objective? is it a commercial product with ongoing maintenance expected?

jouerose20:05:09

yes i would like to go commercial at some stage

micha20:05:47

i'm in the initial stages of a project myself, and i need desktop and mobile support

jouerose20:05:13

i am listening

micha20:05:44

but i don't expect to have an ongoing budget for constantly maintaining complex build stuff in the face of the neverending treadmill of breaking changes and general brokenness

micha20:05:11

so i was at first considering javafx, there is supposedly a thing called javafxports

micha20:05:46

claim is that you can use that to build windows/macos/linux/ios/android apps with a single javafx source

micha20:05:06

i have not seen any evidence that this is actually possible

micha20:05:24

it seems like a rube goldberg machine, based on a thing called robovm which appears to be abandoned

micha20:05:50

that would be the ideal solution for me, for my project

micha20:05:33

but it seems like a pipe dream, and i'm sure in a year one part of the rickety tower of nonsense will be acquired by google and broken or something

micha20:05:45

i don't have time for that kind of churn

micha20:05:53

so now i am just going to make a webapp

micha20:05:10

chrome and firefox support push notifications now, allegedly

micha20:05:33

so that would satisfy the only platform functionality my app needs

micha20:05:12

and i can let mozilla/google keep up with the parade of busywork required to keep an app working on various platforms

micha20:05:36

sorry i don't have better news

micha20:05:03

i just have zero faith in the tooling ecosystem anymore

micha20:05:52

if i had a monthly budget for this project it would be different, i'd just hire N people to keep plugging away at the churn

jouerose20:05:13

thanks for the response @micha

micha20:05:29

if you find something that seems even a little bit sane i'd be all ears

jouerose20:05:38

i like hoplon quite a lot (and of course clojure/script) and wanted to use it