^^ pls try this out! [hoplon "7.0.0-SNAPSHOT"] we made a change that dramatically increases performance

cc @jumblerg ⏫

it should help a lot with initial loads

@alandipert: already on it!

micha tipped me off.

pretty psyched about this one.

in our little test app, adding 1000 lis to a ul went from 5000ms to ~30ms

i also love that we just skipped hoplon 6. seems appropriate, it was getting kinda like perl.

lol yeah the -alpha business

onward and upward

i'm with ya.

^ stoked for this!!!

@ejemba in that example get-state is run and then again every second

https://github.com/hoplon/demos/blob/master/castra-simple/src/app/rpc.cljs#L17-L19

@alandipert any other breaking changes you can think of that may want to go into 7?

i don't think so

Woot!

also this latest change shouldn't be breaking

So I have been working on a project, it’s still WIP and there is little code available but I will be launching this at an upcoming conference; https://github.com/degree9/meta

Opinions welcome 🙂

hm - did we never fix nil children stopping appends?

i forget where that landed

nvm

https://github.com/hoplon/hoplon/issues/159 - still in play

7! 👍

^^ removed because it made hoplon task 6x slower for our app

hm i think we can actually keep it, it just shouldn't be used by hoplon task by default maybe. anyone use it/like it?

i'm for ditching it as well.

i think newer versions of cljs make it less necessary anyway.

i think less is more here; it will probably only frustrate new users.

yeah

Agreed. I used it for a bit but now I never do. Just use ns with hoplon/page metadata when necessary

i don't use the page macro anymore either.

or the cljs.hl files by extension.

i use the page macro and will for the foreseeable future, because our massive app uses it

and i use it for experiments, because the template does lol

but not using it is a pretty good idea too i think

for anyone listening in this looks like:

(ns ^{:hoplon/page "index.html"} mybiz.application ...)

i doubt that's documented anywhere.

i'm thinking about documenting it though. and it's the thought that counts, they say.

i'm down to just switching over to it wherever we have examples

at least, in the immediate docs and templates

makes sense

a cool thing about that is people could use the hoplon task together with reagent or whatever

to be rid of .html stubs

maybe it should just be html now.

i'm about to listen to dan bricklin give a talk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bricklin

🙇 🙇 not worthy

For a for-tpl structure to edit element values in the UI:

(let [data (cell [1 2 3])]
    (for-tpl [x data]
      (elem :click #(swap! x inc) @x)))

@alandipert Can I suggest that we abstract the boot-hoplon dsl stuff out? I think it is both convenient to be able to build your own dsl and confusing for Hoplon users how much magic is being done with the .hl files