Have you seen this foam thing yet? https://github.com/arohner/foam The author details the thought process in his conj talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fICC26GGBpg That's exactly how I imagined a server side variant of Hoplon and that's why I thought it would be good to have some server side javelin too, to compute at least the initial state of a page.

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thanks!