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2020-05-22
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mkvlr06:05:19

will babashka stay on graal 19.3 / jdk8 for the time being because of the startup penalty on OS X? https://github.com/oracle/graal/issues/2136 is quite a 🐇🕳️

borkdude06:05:35

Upgrading seems inevitable because of new bugfixes.

borkdude06:05:50

I’m thinking of moving to 20.1.0 one of these days

mkvlr07:05:09

ok, will you move to JDK 11 also then?

borkdude07:05:57

@mkvlr What is the background to your questions?

mkvlr07:05:49

somewhat interested in having a hato pod

mkvlr07:05:10

but was more of a general interest to hear how/if things have been improving in graal

mkvlr07:05:22

didn’t read anything too exciting in the release notes

borkdude07:05:24

@mkvlr To build an hato pod, you don't need babashka to use JDK11. pods are independent from babashka, they can even be implemented in Python or Rust.

borkdude07:05:22

So if you want, you can start building one today

mkvlr07:05:05

do you have some data on the size penalty of pods vs integrated directly?

mkvlr07:05:25

especially for things using clojure on both sides I mean

borkdude07:05:11

@mkvlr Note that I needed to make some changes to hato: https://github.com/borkdude/hato-native

borkdude07:05:30

Related to runtime requires which needed to be moved to compile time.

mkvlr07:05:46

alright, thanks!

borkdude07:05:09

if you decide to make a pod, here's what you need: https://github.com/babashka/babashka.pods it contains docs and you can also use the lib for testing the pod on the JVM

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