hi @bhauman yes that’s what I was doing

but I wanted to have a all-in-one experience so that no additional server is required

actually loading the extra server when the ring handler code is loaded works OK

and the ring handler is a noop

but of course it is a hack

so no worries

this is the code FYI

https://github.com/raymcdermott/reptile-tongue/blob/master/src/reptile/tongue/server.clj