you can play with define-clojure-indent to set the indentation for different things

(define-clojure-indent
    (defroutes :defn)
    (GET 2)
    (POST 2)
    (PUT 2)
    (DELETE 2)
    (HEAD 2)
    (ANY 2)
    (OPTIONS 2)
    (PATCH 2)
    (context 2)
    ;; (ns 1) ;; default ns indentation
    (ns '(1 0)) ;; intellij cursive's indentation of ns
    )

and here are the defaults https://github.com/clojure-emacs/clojure-mode/blob/b6f41d74904daa9312648f3a7bea7a72fd8e140b/clojure-mode.el#L1651-L1726

I know about define-clojure-indent, but I was hoping that I could get clojure-mode or CIDER to indent whatever I define with macrolet to get indented as macros, i.e. with the second and following lines indented 2 spaces no matter what's on the first line (with the macro name). With define-clojure-indent, as far as I know, I can only define the indentation for specified names, right?

yeah, it seems like that's the case, that you need to define it yourself

https://docs.cider.mx/cider/config/indentation.html

clojure-lsp has some formatting stuff but I don't know if it's hooked in as deeply as cider and clojure-mode

it looks like there's a way to indent using lsp https://emacs-lsp.github.io/lsp-mode/page/settings/mode/#lsp-enable-indentation

but I'm not sure how to teach it about macros and what makes macros

I know clojure-lsp uses clj-kondo under the hood, I wonder if you could use lsp-mode's indentation and then use clj-kondo's hooks to extend it to support your macro https://github.com/clj-kondo/clj-kondo/blob/master/doc/hooks.md

looks like it'll use the clj-kondo hooks in the project and so if you write a hook for it you can hook in lsp indentation and you'll be good

not familiar but it looks super interesting

I jave always been afraid to tinker and learn emacs in depth because of the awkardness of switching contents of .emacs.d, so this looks perfect, but I’m having trouble making it work with Emacs 27.2, but it’s fine with Emacs 29. Will try it out with 28.

Although, Emacs 29 does provide a startup option, —init-directory which essentially does the same thing. But it may be a while before a release 29, and so 28 may be the best option in unless I can figure out why I am having the problem.

isn't emacs 28 when they first released early-init.el?

iirc chemacs2 relies on that

I opened an issue and got a reply from @U07FP7QJ0 that it should work for emacs 27+. Yes indeed, emacs 27 does handle early-init.el. For now it works fine with emacs 28.1, which is a stable release. Will test it some more and install it.

cool!

28 is really nice

Awrigh’! Looking forward to emacs the 28.1 way :)

you can compile things to native code in 28.1

doom emacs does it for you automatically, it'a amazing

I have heard good things about doom. I prefer to keep it light to learn more easily though. Cheers.

Chemacs works great recommend