Anyone using Evil mode? I'm looking for a package/mode that defines text objects for lisp forms.

I do

What I end up using mostly is expand-region, which works well for this purpose

@pesterhazy Do you use any paredit-like mode? I can't decide on which one seems best.

yeah there's almost too many

paredit, smartparens, lispy

Spacemacs comes with smartparens so I use that mostly

ok

I most use slurp, barf, (un)wrap, splice-killing-backwards

i did a presentation on this, a recording of which was uploaded to youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubcERtDyLDw

Can one wrap sexps too? I mean not just words.

sure

the video is not focussed specifically on evil mode but touches on vim keybindings occasionally

I am new to emacs, lost count of how many days I have already spent trying to learn and configure emacs.

It's like 10. 😛

haha. Well it's the beginning of the rest of your life, so time well spent

Something like paredit is like the last thing I need. But I fear I will have to do a lot of configuration to make it work nicely in evil.

I mean, the last thing before I'm done.

Not the last thing as in I don't need it. 😛

yeah, using evil+structural editing is a real gap currently

I'd encourage you to just use one or two commands (perhaps even with M-x so you don't have to remember the keybindings)

That doesn't sound like me. 😛

then when you get comfortable set your own keybindings (if you're not using spacemacs)

Thanks! I'm gonna watch the video, then dive right in I think.

here's what I use for navigation

(evil-global-set-key 'normal ";" 'mark-sexp)
  (evil-global-set-key 'visual ";" 'mark-sexp)
  (evil-global-set-key 'normal "U" 'backward-up-list)
  (evil-global-set-key 'visual "U" 'backward-up-list)
  (evil-global-set-key 'normal "R" 'down-list)
  (evil-global-set-key 'visual "R" 'down-list)
  (evil-global-set-key 'normal "L" 'sp-forward-sexp)
  (evil-global-set-key 'visual "L" 'sp-forward-sexp)
  (evil-global-set-key 'normal "H" 'sp-backward-sexp)
  (evil-global-set-key 'visual "H" 'sp-backward-sexp)

actually I'm using a wild mix of different paredit-like modes 🙂

lispy-clone is really useful IMO

hm

What is that? It copies lines?

I plan on rebinding like ( ), which are for moving sentence-wise normally.

clone creates a duplicate of the current form

But overwriting evil is a little bit involved.

I use it all the time to work on a new defn

Hm. I guess yap p does that too? 😛

I use yap/dap all the time 😛

yeah that's pretty similar

But it doesn't work if there are blank lines. But I just created a text object in evil for "forms", any sexp delimited by () [] {}

So then it would be yaf 😛

By the way, I looked at all the smartparens functions in emacs. And there doesn't seem to be anything for "wrap word" or "wrap sexp".

@pesterhazy What functions do you use to wrap lists and words?

there's this: https://github.com/Fuco1/smartparens/wiki/Wrapping

I use something called evil-lisp-state-wrap

which ships with spacemacs but may be a separate package

smartparens docs are not very user-friendly unfortunately

I wish they would list all editing commands somewhere... But I haven't found such a list

I don't know why they make things so complicated

there's also a couple of attempts to make things better for evil users (evil-cleverparens, lispyville)

I use lispyville just for rebinding dd etc to be parenthesis-safe, a very important feature

I haven't read that page about wrapping yet (watching vid), but I tried to look for commands starting with "sp-" and that have "wrap", and I couldn't figure out how to wrap words and lists 😛

right, same here

I have /Users/me/.emacs.d/elpa/dumb-jump-20161218.110 but want to try a version of dumb-jump from git. What's the normal way to do that?

in Spacemacs, if that matters

@pesterhazy do you mind restarting emacs or not ?

if you don’t mind: uninstall dumb-jump. Use quelpa to install the latest version from git master: https://github.com/quelpa/quelpa

The reason I say ‘restart emacs’ is because most of the functionality is already loaded into Emacs and by doing it the way I described above, you avoid any potential clashes with the already loaded functions and the new ones

I'm ok with restarting :)

oh didn't know about quelpa, cool stuff!

I use standard melpa and it appears to have the latest git version

Not sure if this is the place to post this, but just installed inf-clojure, and got these warnings: https://gist.github.com/uvtc/e39b3190870ad415cb4e97d41d7e78f5

@uvtc I think they are worth an issue

just make sure you have clojure-mode installed

Thanks. Yes, I (must) have clojure-mode installed...

the first warning is innocuous I guess, but the second is weird and needs fixing probably

How can I see which version of clojure-mode I've got installed?

Hm. Looking in ~/.emacs.d/elpa, the directory is named clojure-mode-20141101.1. But... 2014? Hm...

Ah. M-x clojure-mode-display-version.

Thanks, @richiardiandrea .

@uvtc I'll have a look at that issue, thanks for reporting

does anyone know which Emacs command/function adds the prompt “Lisp expression: ” to the mini-buffer? Something in my set up seems to be triggering this prompt frequently (once a minute or so) and I haven’t been able to track it down yet.

M-:

is eval-expression

there was a bug in CIDER recently on jack-in (?) maybe that triggered this

ah but the function getting called is read somewhere

I’ve seen that, but the prompt that eval-expression shows is Eval:

instead of Lisp expression:

it's read

eval (read) in a scratch buffer

yes thank you.

So, I’m not using Cider, I switched to inf-clojure, and that was close to when I started seeing this happen

ah

i don't see any usages of read in inf-clojure though

not this one? https://github.com/clojure-emacs/inf-clojure/blob/master/inf-clojure.el#L909

well then, i will never use github's search again

yeah i would dig around in those and see which one could be nil

(read nil) asks for the input from the minibuffer

ahh that’s it. There’s only three or so, I’ll check them out

thanks so much!

for posterity and anyone who reads this later, I ran a toggle-debug-on-quit and got this stacktrace:

read-minibuffer("Lisp expression: ")
  read(nil)
  inf-clojure-arglists("update")
  inf-clojure-eldoc-arglists(#("update" 0 6 (fontified t)))
  inf-clojure-eldoc()
  eldoc-print-current-symbol-info()
  ...
  timer-event-handler...

@richiardiandrea ^

when I try running inf-clojure-eldoc I get eldoc error: (end-of-file)

I’m going to try a simpler project, instead of this work app

@adamfrey are you on the last inf-clojure?

which clojure are you using? jvm, lumo, etc

because I thought I fixed exectly that

in the recent 2.0?

20170507.233

I’m in a jvm repl

it might be a bug...lemme check

let* ((arglists-snippet (format (inf-clojure-arglists-form) fn))
         (arglists-result (inf-clojure-results-from-process (inf-clojure-proc) arglists-snippet))
         (arglists-data (read arglists-result)))

looks like an unchecked inf-clojure-results-from-process

if that comes back nil then you have the blocking read in the minibuffer

right

mini Andrea bug 😄

sorry about that, I am fixing

ha

this should do: (arglists-data (when arglists-result (read arglists-result)))

thanks @adamfrey for reporting!

no problem. Are you cutting a new version?

that's up to @bozhidar, but the patch is there

oh ok

pretty sure we'd need a 2.0.1

is there an easy way to intent all of the bindings of a let ?

i.e. for all binding-expr pairs, I want the start of all exprs within the let to line ujp