Clojurians Log v2

That's very interesting. Thanks for the heads up

No worries. I'm super curious how he came across Datomic - I couldn't see any indications of it being used by Anthropic at least?

he was really into clojure early on

mmm just my own mumbling, feel free to ignore - probably off-topic here > With this accretive development model, it’s like Anthropic engineers are sculpting together with clay. It feels like there are a bunch of campfires at Anthropic, and they swarm around the fires (various in-flight products), changing their shapes as people try new variations and mashups. I wonder if this approach is just not manageable when you want to converge to a deterministic approach to make profits (ie financially sustainably growing your business). It is a reasonable [0] goal of companies to focus on uncompetitive monopolies because that way they earn more with less expenses. At the moment Anthropic is burning investors money so they can "waste" in innovation. The concerning bit is: > because they are all 10x to 100x as productive as engineers who are using Cursor and chat today, and roughly 1000x as productive as Googlers were back in 2005 if llm (ie agents) can only work on already known patterns (their training data), I am curious what(/with what methods) are Anthropic people producing in innovaton terms here? > But there is a yellow brick road: spending tokens. This golden shimmering trail will lead your company gradually in the right direction. Your organization is going to have to learn a bunch of new lessons, as new bottlenecks emerge when coding is no longer the bottleneck. You need to start learning those bespoke organizational lessons early. The only way to know for sure that you’re learning those lessons is if people are out there trying and making mistakes. And you can tell how much practice they’re getting from their token spend this sounds very unsustainable: given currently we are not paying the real price of tokens (burning investment money is hiding the cost of inference) and it was estimated tokens require 10x a google search in terms of electricity, is the author inadvertently suggesting that organizations should just start consuming huge amounts of actual resources (land, fuel -> electricity) to be competitive? > My strong suspicion is that Anthropic is operating the way all successful companies will soon operate within a few short years, despite it being so very different from how most operate today [0] in terms of winning the game of competition, in terms of the https://goodreads.com/book/show/189989.Finite_and_Infinite_Games?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=owymkqlsf4&rank=1 societies play it is just nonsense.

@andrea-dev Ya I'm confused as well. Unless they have a lot of secret products cooking, currently I'm not able to observe anything substantial beyond their core foundational model. Claude Code + mcp + skills is neat, but you don't need to be 1000x productive to arrive at them beyond the initial idea of it. Internal to my company, single individuals have made their own cli agents for example, that often rivals Claude Code in features, many companies have their competing one, Google and OpenAI could catch up pretty fast because it's not a substantial piece of software. We have ECA for example, impressive for sure, but again it was achievable with relatively few resources in a short amount of time.

That said, I really agree with: > That was the beginning of the end. As soon as there wasn’t enough work, people began to fight over the work that was left. It kicked off a wave of empire building, territoriality, politicking, land grabs, and, as Lydia Ash taught me, Cookie Licking–a phrase folks at Microsoft had invented to accuse people of claiming work that they will never actually get around to doing. > I've seen this happen for sure. It seems many companies end up bloated with people all trying to justify their role due to the company itself because they start to focus exclusively on highly visible already profitable areas. Counterintuitively it creates more bloat than it removes.