datomic

vc 2025-06-23T07:59:33.986389Z

Little confused here, how does one get datomic cloud? since now it is free but only hardware cost. Isn't it same as Datomic Pro now?

tatut 2025-06-23T08:07:54.770859Z

no, it is a somewhat different product

tatut 2025-06-23T08:08:32.271719Z

but you can run datomic pro in cloud as well of course, but you can directly install cloud from the aws marketplace

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danieroux 2025-06-23T08:24:32.408839Z

https://docs.datomic.com/setup-cloud/setup-cloud.html Broad strokes: 1. Create an AWS account 2. Run the Storage Cloudformation Template 3. Run the Compute Cloudformation Template When executing the Compute Template you will be asked how big, and how many EC2 instances you want. You can change that in the AutoScalingGroup in the EC2 console, later. You can even make it 0, to stop the system

danieroux 2025-06-23T08:28:05.675179Z

Also worth noting: Cognitect does not provide the ability to delete storage, so your data will be safe while you are experimenting (Cognitect does provide the manual steps you would need to take to delete all storage)

vc 2025-06-23T09:31:21.813149Z

but then what is the difference? is it like cloud is a readymade pro such that a pro user might end up configuring it like cloud?

danieroux 2025-06-23T09:35:51.206979Z

https://docs.datomic.com/datomic-overview.html#datomic-editions The biggest difference to me is that the "Up to You" in Pro is taken care of in Cloud.

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vc 2025-06-23T09:44:07.719109Z

Thanks this helped!

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tatut 2025-06-23T10:48:06.910509Z

also note, that afaict cloud doesn't have excise support

tatut 2025-06-23T10:49:05.759609Z

so if you need a way to permanently delete data for GDPR or other regulatory compliance reasons... that is more complicated

vc 2025-06-23T10:52:02.731439Z

yeah that

cch1 2025-06-23T12:48:43.730249Z

Another big plus in Cloud: the Datomic Ion feature provides ready-made web-server/autoscaling/load-balancer/deployment/logging/metrics tooling that integrates perfectly with the core db features. It's pretty much a start-up bootstrap toolkit disguised as a database.