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2016-02-07
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jethroksy01:02:33

I personally wouldn't like to see the community split between any more services

jethroksy01:02:57

Perhaps it would do good to conduct a survey to see where the majority vote lies at

jethroksy01:02:22

Braid would probably continue regardless of whether clojurians are going to adopt it

meow03:02:37

Correct, Braid is happening regardless.

cfleming08:02:36

I agree, I don’t think we should split if possible.

cfleming08:02:52

@meow: Any idea when Braid might become usable for Clojurians?

jethroksy08:02:00

@cfleming: currently it's somewhat functional, but definitely lacks the polish for mass adoption

jethroksy08:02:47

@meow is proposing a talk at clojurewest on braid, hopefully to onboard more people to help with development/testing

cfleming08:02:42

@jethroksy: Right, I’ve used it a bit, it’s definitely a long way from a Slack replacement.

jethroksy08:02:13

my main concern is getting people used to the braid style of chat

jethroksy08:02:45

in order for it to be successful everyone must be familiar with it, if not chaos would ensue

cfleming08:02:51

I don’t see it being workable for something this size, at least right now.

cfleming08:02:11

I know they’re aware of the issue and are trying to come up with something.

cfleming08:02:37

But it seems better for a small team right now, not 500 people in a single room

jethroksy08:02:41

they've become too used to the braid system, and need more people to provide feedback on "first-use" experience

jethroksy08:02:16

then comes the problem of terminology...

jethroksy08:02:22

I don't think there are "rooms" in braid

cfleming08:02:40

There aren’t, so we have 4800 people in one room simple_smile

jethroksy08:02:06

isn't that the same thing as in Slack?

jethroksy08:02:17

perhaps they'd all be subscribed to the general tag

jethroksy08:02:28

but otherwise they'll receive only what they want to

cfleming08:02:32

Well, I guess there are 4800 people in #general, but.. right

jethroksy08:02:45

I welcome the inbox idea

jethroksy08:02:55

feels like Mailbox for gmail, which I enjoyed for a while

jethroksy08:02:30

but this is dependent on people not necroing old threads

jethroksy08:02:11

either the control logic in the app has to be complex enough to handle all these cases, or the users have to be intelligent enough to know how braid works

rafd11:02:50

re: necroing in Braid, there will be UI to indicate old threads and to warn user that they are necroing

rafd11:02:16

re: # of people... there's only ever 3-5 people actively participating in a room at any given time (many lurkers)... I image more would actively participate in Braid b/c conversations are less time-sensitive than here

rafd11:02:50

re: "the Braid model" being different... I am willing to add a more traditional-looking mode that could be the default... (with a single level of threading, so it would look similar to Facebook comments)

meow13:02:31

Braid Alpha will be released on April 15.