Clojurians Log v2

linked from https://clojure.org/about/documentary to https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P3z4Nh02l6zIeGypgQ5wKGUe6Lq0lUCR-R35b0MF7mU/edit?gid=1078381722#gid=1078381722

compiled by Fogus based on info from Rich (goes way beyond what's in the documentary)

Thanks Alex. I think I missed the link to the spreadsheet when I was skimming the page.

Perfect. That list is exactly what I'm looking for.

happy reading :)

I might come up for air in a few months, we'll see.

you have to produce a programming language at the end of the reading list before you can come back

From scratch?

well, no one starts from scratch now

Or is leveraging the research to contribute to other dialects fair game?

sure :)

I appreciate that even in humor we've aggressively time boxed my hypothetical exile.

Now you also need this nice e-reader that Rich was showing off in his hammock. Was it a reMarkable? Someone asked about this on reddit

Would love to know. Reader would be nice.

Standing on the shoulders of giants, and taking honest shortcuts from there Before going all-in reading all the papers in the list let's not forget there's stuff Rich read before deciding it was a bad idea 😁

I did not forget that detail. But I do appreciate the reminder.

Pretty sure that exact point was mentioned in the doc.

https://shop.boox.com @borkdude, I can confirm these are phenomenal.

Yes, I use the B/W with no front light models for the best reading experience

what do you guys use for syncing to your boox? the push app gives me an “area code error” when I try to use it 😄

so I just use the good old USB to transfer files

I just use USB sync with Calibre.

@simongray in the reader app choose layout|article mode for 2 columns or custom for 3 or for different navigation order. What those modes do is show you one quadrant of the page, page down takes you to the next, then over to the next column etc.

Thanks!

I sync with google drive

Thanks!

Another thought on the topic, it is probably better to get the black and white boox to read pdfs as the contrast is better

I just had to link to this meme in #memes, it's just too funny. https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C0459PCHLTW/p1776880941656279

My daily driver tablet is a Boox Go 10.3 (gen 1). It has no front light and is monochrome, both ideal for the best reading and writing experience. The Boox reader app is quite adept at PDFs, with multicolumn reading modes that make 2 and 3 column papers easy to read on this device size. I also have a Boox Note Max, a larger device that can render a full size page, but I rarely use it due to the weight. The multicolumn mode on the smaller device is a better reading experience. Note that the gen 2 Go 10.3s uses an active stylus rather than EMR. I'm skeptical. If you can find a gen 1, grab it, it's wonderful.

I've also had a RPPro that I returned, too heavy, weak software and an ugly screen, and a Supernote Manta (rooting for them, but Boox is ahead software wise), as well as my first Boox, a Note Air 2+, which I allow on the Internet and use to read RSS feeds and communication apps. The Go is my focus device, offline, reading documents and writing only.

If it's not clear, I'm a huge proponent of e-ink. I write in cursive on it. It's a great way to avoid getting distracted by, well, everything.

Thanks for the info. Noted!

Thanks Rich.

@richhickey the dual page mode? I never thought to use that mode for reading paper columns separately. Wouldn't it make them extremely tall? Or is it some new mode I'm not aware of?

I got one, these are pretty good for PDFs

which model do you guys specifically have? also good for reading kindle books and other DRM-free epub?

I have the Note Air4 C, it can read epub just fine but it's overkill for that, it's a big tablet

@dimitar.ouzounoff Are you coming to babashka conf or Dutch Clojure Days? perhaps you can bring it to show :)

I’m not coming, unfortunately :)

@borkdude I have a Boox Max Lumi. It is basically the around the same size as A4, so it is excellent for reading papers or bigger PDFs. I wouldn't use it for epub/kindle/etc. content, though. You want a smaller device for that so that you can lie down in a sofa or bed.

i've found kobos to be good kindle alternatives for e-readers

So, I’m curious. Did he actually read A history of Clojure before he wrote Clojure? That’s kinda somewhat meta-circular in a way?

A history of Clojure was dictated by an angel in 2005 or so, I guess?

yep he sent it to himself from the future, when he invented time travel. just wait and see.

the list includes a lot of stuff dated after the release of the language, so I guess that for the stuff relevant before the appearance of Clojure we'll have to make the effort to apply a filter there 😁 still the history of Clojure one (authored by The Man Himself) is 100% relevant in a "papers of Clojure" list (might even be the best starting point before attempting everything else there)

on the old boox tablets you can hook in a mini hdmi port, and i found it to be phenomenal for a portable little e-ink emacs.