Thanks!

Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs could help in general

Probably Clojure Applied is something that you might want to take a look at - https://a.co/1HL2XPF (link from https://clojure.org/community/books)

Namespace-wise it's not really that different from a procedural language (e.g. plain C). For stateful components dependency injection is still good e.g. https://github.com/weavejester/integrant. And you won't run into Haskell-style "stacking monads" organization challenges.

In specific cases like Ring/Reitit/Re-frame middleware/interceptors are quite prominent for cross-cutting concerns

https://pragprog.com/titles/dswdcloj3/web-development-with-clojure-third-edition/ is helpful although quite opionated (the author also made https://luminusweb.com/)

...if you are doing web stuff

Thanks that’s already great stuff. I don’t mind opinionated as a starting base 🙂

Clojure Applied is a good book too

Just realised that I bought that one, but never read it 😄

I'm a big fan of the book Elements of Clojure https://elementsofclojure.com/ and it's precisely about how to architect clojure programs (you'd need another book like Clojure Applied for learning the language itself)

https://github.com/trhura/clojure-term-colors you can use that library in combination with timbre’s option :fmt-output-fn to format desired string

Ah thank you for those links. These might be actually very close to what I have been looking for recently 😄

In Haskell you get a similar data interface with lenses etc. and any number of lenses can be added for any type at any time! But the learning curve is vim-tastic 😅

I love Sente

This is working well for us in production: https://github.com/sunng87/ring-jetty9-adapter

We have about 50 lines of code in a ns that implements on-connect , on-close, on-error, on-pong with a little additional ceremony.

I just Ctrl+Alt+L in Cursive so the answer is... no?

sometimes you have to manually do it, aligning vectors, match clauses, etc. Teams can be quite strongly attached to alignment as well. Some like maps to be aligned, some think this is useless diff and invites needless conflicts on rebase/merge etc

Haha, yea I use the auto align/format tools a ton for macro layout, but sometimes I’ll go in and tweak subtle things to polish it.

At the detriment of my productivity at times 🙂

> some think this is useless diff -bhttps://git-scm.com/docs/git-diff#Documentation/git-diff.txt--b`-w`https://git-scm.com/docs/git-diff#Documentation/git-diff.txt--b, so I don't share the sentiment! From the git manual: > -b > --ignore-space-change > Ignore changes in amount of whitespace. This ignores whitespace at line end, and considers all other sequences of one or more whitespace characters to be equivalent. > > -w > --ignore-all-space > Ignore whitespace when comparing lines. This ignores differences even if one line has whitespace where the other line has none. magit has opt-in flags for both, see screenshot, not sure about other editors

I use align-regex in emacs reasonably often to tidy up the vertical alignment of thing that cider doesn't do with C-c SPACE ... it doesn't suck up much time... and I've had bad experiences with all the code formatting tools that I've used ... but I like whitespace changes to generally be their own commit, so they can be dealt with independently and say that they're introducing no functional changes

I’ve been liking calva’s alignCurrentForm for vertical alignment. There’s something deeply satisfying about table-like data. I think it’s well worth its costs.

Daniel Gregoire had a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5UK-VHbJlQ&list=PLZdCLR02grLpMkEBXT22FTaJYxB92i3V3&index=20 about tables and their use in code at Conj 2018.

We have non-devs who access the codebase, so it all gets the zprint pre-commit hammer

Nothing except lack of trying 🙂 There are lots of data diffing and patching libs for Clojure already, maybe there would be some challenges combining that with rewrite-clj but maybe not

I think Cursive does a little bit of this already but that is not ideal for everybody

Just to illustrate some use case : Let's say I have a function

1. (defn compute [arg1 arg2] ...)

1. (defn compute [arg1 arg2] ...)
...
5. (compute 1 2)
...

1. (defn multiply-by [arg1 arg2] ...)
...
18. (multiply-by 3 4)

That's definitely worth digging, thanks for the pointers

No merge, just diff, but maybe relevant: https://fazzone.github.io/autochrome.html

I know, I've used it, I think we've even talked about it before

Hah my apologies, couldn’t resist when I saw the subject come up 😛

Did it work ok for your needs or did you run into issues?

It's great, but today we have graalvm and I would rather stay with native binaries and get away from nodejs

Another even simpler solution is to use https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink

That’s adjacent to what the template uses, though that reminds me to try it out and see if it would be better than blessed + react bindings.

A lot depends on how complex a UI you intend to make. INK is not particularly suitable for displaying large amounts of content as on some dashboards.

Interesting. Do you happen to know why?

but for me it worked great where the user simply had to select one of many things to choose from to trigger some application action.

If nothing has changed, INK does not have the ability to place other components in squares

there were only buttons that could have text inside and trying to put something more complex in there ruined everything

It seems like that changed as the examples indicate a Box with Boxes in them

https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink#box

I'm not a native speaker, by saying box I don't mean a <box> component but creating borders and dividing the view into smaller elements with clear edges

However, I see now that it seems to have changed a bit over the last year when I last checked. I'll check right now to see if it's possible to make a nested box

https://github.com/vadimdemedes/ink#borderstyle

Also of note, you can use graalvm to build from js as well as java.

thanks! Looks like it's working, I already know what I'm doing tomorrow : >

I haven't tried to use graalvm to compile js yet, but there is another fundamental problem. imho clojure > clojurescript.

Depends on the trade-offs for a given problem space in my experience. May try switching the cljs-tui template to ink this week though as it seems better maintained

When you finish, share your results, I'd love to see

I think this question is a good fit for #find-my-lib even though you ask for Java

fyi https://clojurians.slack.com/archives/C03S1KBA2/p1618430380033200

I'm not sure it was ever based on lanterna 2. The dependency was 3.0.2 and I just updated it to 3.1.1

oh you are using lanterna directly, not clojure-lanterna. nice

I don't use any of the built in widgets, I just use lanterna for the raw graphics and events