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So, Salesforce has bought Slack...for 27 billion...for a fancy pantsy irc client...
Unless the bundle in sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads...
I’m still annoyed at Slack for buying Screenhero and then deciding that no, they actually don’t want the tech after all and shutting the whole thing down.
Any hope that clojurians could get, perhaps an open source price reduction (or waiver) imho, ain't going to happen.
I wouldn't be surprised that eventually, they'll charge for any slack workspace that has 500+, 1000+ 1500+ users
Good grief Slack, why would you not make my preferences for things like WYSIWYG editor vs markup consistent across all my workspaces...
the big advantage of the way they do it is that you can login to multiple accounts in the same workspace simultaneously, which is great if you have multiple roles, e.g. admin personality vs regular user
yeah it makes sense for corporate internal comms, for community style stuff, i think the discord model is better. we moved lambda lounge there and it's been p good
One login, with multiple workspace equivalents that each have independent text chat channels and also pre-defined 'chat rooms' where you can go for voice (and more recently video) chat
It has primarily been aimed at PC gamers, so it has hooks into various game launchers to show what you're currently playing, allow easy streaming etc, but as a 'chat client with history that you don't have to pay $$$ for' it's pretty good
i use it for my online cycling group, for the worms wmd tournament, for lambda lounge and for talking to various folk, all one login, v easy
the people in my shared office have a weekly worms wmd night cos it's weird having gone from seeing each other every day 9-5 to not at all lol
I need a TCP intermediary that can sit between client and server and allow me to simulate a bad/broken connection, running within the JVM. What is the state-of-the-art for that kind of utility? Any favourites?
if it’s enough to run it locally and on mac os then you can use the built in network link conditioner
Re: Slack alternatives -- I think if we ever have to get off Slack as a community, Zulip is going to be the next largest community to move to. It already has archives of most channels here, some dating back a year or so, and it has several thousand members already -- and I've noticed activity increasing there over time. It's great that it can be navigated entirely via the keyboard, even in a browser.
@dharrigan Total Users on Clojurians Zulip is just under 1,900 members right now.
(looks like it's been growing steadily at about 100 members per month for most of this year)
Slack messages here are archived to Zulip via the @zulip-mirror-bot (if it's in a channel here), but it's a one-way propagation.
just looking at it, I see that, like slack, it has a free tier, but keeps only limited messages...given that's one of the biggest problems with this free slack, how does that factor into any future choices?
It may not happen this year, or next, but I strongly suspect that salesforce will try to squeeze their 27 billion investiment out of slack somehow....
Of course, you're still beholden to ZulipChat continuing to support large OSS communities for free...
I would add that I have played around with http://matrix.org and it's good, with momentum too - and since it's 100% open source and not tied to any company, there's no fear of any company changing their mind on costs (or being bought!). Perhaps that can be considered (if at some point in the future, these decisions have to be made)
Yeah, the Clojure http://matrix.org has a two-way bridge to IRC on freenode I think?
Finding a long-term stable host company that is willing to maintain the infrastructure has always been a big stumbling block in the past for any of these "free open source" chat systems.
Several of the community members who have previously said "Oh, my company would host that!" ... those companies no longer exist 🙂
Trust me, over the years, I've been round and round this topic endless times every time someone new says "We should use X instead of Slack!"