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Off-topic but I didn’t know there’re so many way to pronounce R I thought it’s just standard R and rolling R (used by people from latin & slavic countries) until I met Scottish guy who did pronounce his R in something I thought to be rolling R, but not it seems it was more likely tapped R.


The guy who did the voice clips for that page seems like he was having a good time

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One of the problems with living in the UK is having to mentally correct myself every time I spell my name out, UK people can't process it when I pronounce 'r' as 'orr' instead of 'arr'


english is very slack with pronunciation - but that's maybe a strength in that it remains comprehensible even when it's being slaughtered. makes teaching the kids to spell quite hard though


try reading this one put loud:

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Reading it is easy (for a native). I expect not for others.


I think if you come from a consistent language, you probably don't read ahead a little.


oh... "made has not the sound of bade"


i thought it did


so it seems even some native english speakers can get tripped up in the first few paragraphs of that poem

Ben Hammond15:09:47

I've not seen that poem before. made me smile

Ben Hammond15:09:45

I love the way that you can use tonals to create metadata that might completely reverse the meaning of the words


This is glorious . Thanks for sharing


Don't know what it means when the words are in italics .


i think the italicised words are the focus of irregularity in that verse


the version that @U052852ES posted seems to be a longer version than most... i've been looking for an audio reading of it (but sadly can't find one) because there are some words on there i have been pronouncing wrongly in my head (bade, ague, terpsichore - i know the first two, but i don't think i've ever spoken them, and the third was new to me) and probably many more i don't yet know i've been pronouncing wrongly


I came across it years ago and it is quite tricky for non native speakers I think


and yes I thought made and bade were the same as well, but then again, I am johnny Foreigner anyway


bases on the first 50 italicised words, i've gotten 2 of them wrong (based on comparisons to audio readings) - so that gives me about a ~5% error rate, as a native speaker


i suspect i would do better if i were a fan of classical literature and theatre


there aren't many terpsichores or agues in the media i tend to consume though


Oh yeah, I'm totally ignoring the words nobody uses or knows what they mean anyway.


good to know I am not the only one

Ben Hammond10:09:14

just realised, that poem avoids mentioning scones

Ben Hammond10:09:19

perhaps that is wise


scones is right there with vim vs. emacs and spaces vs tabs


i dunno, i'm an emacs user, but i have a healthy respect for vim users, and have occasionally even been tempted to cross the divide - whereas i have no respect at all for tab users or those who pronounce scone as "sconn"


scone as in gone


yeah but is the pasty from devon or cornwall?

Ben Hammond12:09:29

I though all these innovations are from China originally

Ben Hammond13:09:26

and they received them from alien civilisations ... no doubt