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djm08:07:49

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Ben Hammond09:07:10

https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/1289123431850614784 This brings us back to the old A-Sock, A-soohss pronunciation

Ben Hammond09:07:56

how would you pronounce Assoccer?

Conor09:07:56

I don't care what the inventor of GIFs wants me to call things, there's no such thing as jraphics

dominicm09:07:59

It's like giraffe

maleghast14:07:28

Any Dell XPS 13” / Arch users in here today..? My 2018 XPS 13” has just started to refuse to start my wireless card... Two days ago it was fine; just woke it from sleep, no amount of cajoling can get the wireless to turn on. Have gone around the rfkill and ip link set wlp2s0 up roundabout a few times and rebooted a bunch of times but I cannot coax it back to life :-(

maleghast14:07:40

Unfortunately if I can't get it working this will render my personal linux box effectively unusable 😞

maleghast14:07:01

I really don't relish copying all the data off and starting from scratch, plus I like Arch...

dominicm14:07:47

have you pressed the button, F10 I think?, to disable the wifi

maleghast14:07:08

@dominicm - F10 appears to be backlit keyboard. There is an antenna on the Home key, but that appears to only turn on / off the Bluetooth module

dominicm14:07:33

It also toggles the wifi, unless you've changed it in the bios.

maleghast14:07:35

rfkill list has wifi neither soft or hard blocked

dominicm14:07:46

I suppose if your wifi card is dead, then it wouldn't be distinguished

maleghast14:07:34

It just stopped working after being in sleep - I hope it's not actually died, the machine is out of warranty

dominicm14:07:56

oh, hold on, this is just after it's been to sleep?

dominicm14:07:00

so on reboot it might be OK?

maleghast14:07:22

nope, I have rebooted via restart and shutdown and power on and nothing

dominicm14:07:49

Could be a kernel thing I suppose. Always worth trying the linux-lts kernel

dominicm14:07:32

worth checking dmesg and lspci too

maleghast14:07:28

dmesg looks as though the driver is loading

dominicm14:07:10

well, that's positive. That implies it's being seen!

maleghast14:07:38

Similarly lspci shows the wireless card...

maleghast14:07:03

I can see the hw switch “working” by toggling and running rfkill list

maleghast14:07:41

But ip link set wlp2s0 up does nothing :-(

maleghast14:07:56

My Google-Fu has utterly failed me too...

maleghast14:07:13

What did you mean about Linux-LTS?

dominicm14:07:25

it's just the stable kernel rather than the bleeding edge one

maleghast14:07:58

Oh I see - I must admit I have no idea how to switch

maleghast14:07:49

It’s just so weird - 2 days ago I was connected to the WiFi on it, having updated. I put it to sleep, woke it this afternoon and “Wireless is Deactivated” in the Desktop UI and no way to bring it back up

dominicm14:07:11

what desktop ui?

maleghast14:07:45

Bottom bar widget

maleghast14:07:01

I have no idea what it’s actually called

dominicm14:07:19

I wonder if KDE is somehow involved suspect

maleghast14:07:55

Maybe... It’s worked flawlessly for 2.5 years, so I don’t have any specific reason to suspect it. Plus 2 days ago I did an update and power cycles the laptop and then used it for a couple of hours with WiFi then put it to sleep. WiFi was none existent on wake up.

maleghast14:07:17

Frankly it’s bizarre ;-)

dominicm14:07:11

I get suspicious of the DEs because they make it easy to accidentally press things

maleghast14:07:05

Yeah, I know what you mean, but there does not seem to be a control for this - it’s all a bit too high level ;-)

maleghast14:07:46

Yeah, it would appear that I can’t get the LTS kernel without being connected to the internet :-(

djm14:07:34

Don't you have any ethernet cables you can stick into your router?

maleghast14:07:10

@djm_uk it’s a laptop that does not have an Ethernet port :-(

dominicm15:07:16

yeah, I realized that 😄

djm15:07:29

Ahh, you can get usb ethernet adapters, if you don't mind spending a bit of money and waiting

maleghast15:07:51

@djm_uk - I may have to... :-(

djm15:07:35

For trying a different kernel, I would try burning a live image of another distro to a usb stick first (if I didn't already have a usb-ethernet thing)

dominicm15:07:55

or a usb wifi card 😄

maleghast15:07:08

Well yeah if the WiFi card inside is b0rk3d...

dominicm15:07:53

you can get dinky ones these days, much less of a bother

maleghast15:07:57

Thx for the ideas / help nonetheless :-)

maleghast15:07:08

@dominicm - You don't happen to have a brand / chipset recommendation re compat do you?

dominicm15:07:18

always atheros