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2020-06-18
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dharrigan04:06:50

Good Morning!

dharrigan04:06:58

Rainy here today!

seancorfield04:06:40

Nice. You need the rain, according to mum.

dharrigan04:06:13

Tis nice and peaceful at the moment, with the gentle staccato sound of the rain. Waiting for my wee wain to wake up.

dharrigan04:06:49

and he's awake

djm05:06:19

Very British weather recently - varying from hot(ish) and sunny, to heavy rain, thunder and lightning, and even some hail

seancorfield05:06:21

Last week in the SF Bay Area, we had 100F in the house three or four days running, then a day of rain and down to the mid-60's F for a day or two, then back up into the 80's...

seancorfield05:06:02

(we're on downward trend to the low 70's by Tuesday next week then it's set to climb again -- rain is unusual here from March to September)

djm05:06:38

I don't live in the US, and I'm in my mid-thirties, so I had to ask the web what 100F was in units I can understand

djm05:06:16

Sounds much too hot to me!

seancorfield05:06:23

Even tho' decimalization happened when I was a kid in England, I've always resisted and stuck to imperial measures!

seancorfield05:06:30

I'm used to chatting with my mum (in England, every Monday) and she's old enough to still think in F as well 🙂

djm05:06:22

I'm sure I would have been the same, but the metric system is all I was ever taught, really

seancorfield05:06:44

Aye, well, you're 20+ years younger than me 🙂

mccraigmccraig08:06:15

it's a slightly minging 291K here

alexlynham08:06:55

I think in american temperature it's 424.3 fluid cups right now

alexlynham08:06:13

or is that 63 heated oz

folcon08:06:41

Ah fahrenheit, that thing I can never remember how to convert…

mccraigmccraig08:06:19

i remember 32˚F=0˚C and -40˚F=-40˚C, which is enough to work it out

Phil Hunt08:06:09

It's the monsoon season already in the Wirral 🙂

djm09:06:33

A government funded software project overrunning - I'm shocked

djm09:06:06

Also s/government funded// , but still

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mccraigmccraig13:06:09

if it wasn't so sad it would be comical... "U-turn comes after British officials concluded it was technically impossible to create an effective app that did not conform to the Google and Apple model" - as even the most cursory of competent research would have revealed several months ago - i wonder how much in contract fees has been splurged to get to this point? : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/18/uk-poised-to-abandon-coronavirus-app-in-favour-of-apple-and-google-models

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Ben Hammond13:06:55

ten million or so was the number I heard

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Ben Hammond14:06:51

oops I was out

Ben Hammond14:06:03

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/17/world/europe/uk-contact-tracing-coronavirus.html > The New York Times has learned that the contact-tracing contract, awarded in a secretive procurement process, cost 108 million pounds, or about $136 million.

alexlynham14:06:24

right let's burn the place down lads

alexlynham14:06:37

somebody should be going to PRISON over that

alexlynham14:06:51

it's probably one of their mates as well

alexlynham14:06:56

THIS COUNTRY ARGH

alexlynham14:06:15

i'm going to have a tea and a biscuit, i cant even

Ben Hammond14:06:21

that's why there's no money left to feed the kids

Ben Hammond14:06:02

oh, hang on, there's £100'000'000'000 behind the sofa, still wet from the printers

Ben Hammond14:06:16

what kind of tea?

mccraigmccraig14:06:13

opium+coca-leaf tea, it's the only solution in times like these

Ben Hammond14:06:49

speedballs, not sure will turn out as well as you are hoping

mccraigmccraig14:06:22

i have low expectations, i've been living in britain for half a century

Conor14:06:26

Why isn't someone paying me £108 million to do some webshit

Ben Hammond14:06:51

clearly you're not pals with Mr Cummings

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Conor14:06:32

I'll deliver equally non-working software for a mere hundreth of that figure

dharrigan14:06:07

But why? If you can get away with charging £100 million for zero quality...

Conor14:06:51

I'm not greedy

dharrigan14:06:13

That's why you're not 100 million richer 🙂

Ben Hammond14:06:26

you don't believe in yourself you mean

Conor14:06:34

I would settle for even half a million

Ben Hammond14:06:08

alot of the mystique is achieved by keeping the prices high, I believe

Ben Hammond14:06:50

you have to value yourself highly before others will

alexlynham14:06:37

so if i up my day rate to 108m

alexlynham14:06:44

is that what you are saying ben

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alexlynham14:06:51

i could live with that

minimal14:06:11

and the contact tracing system farmed out to Serco instead of expanding the already existing contact tracing done by PHE, NHS, environment health etc

Ben Hammond14:06:53

as described in Yes PrimeMinister; the pricetag is the point > At the moment we have a magic wand. It is called Trident. No one understands anything about it except that it will cost £15 billion, which means that it must be wonderful. Magical > We just have to write the cheque, and then we can all relax. > But if people in the government start talking about it, eventually they will start thinking about it. Then they will realise the problems, the flaws in the reasonin.. Result: the nation gets anxious

minimal14:06:15

Same with the Nightingale hospitals, spend £200 million on hospitals that there are no staff for. In a large part to be seen to be doing something

Ben Hammond14:06:28

I wonder whos doing todays Government briefing

Ben Hammond16:06:07

its Hancock the Humourist

Ben Hammond16:06:42

oh and Dodo harding

Ben Hammond16:06:21

oooh he does not recommend that people download the app

Ben Hammond16:06:04

that world isn't going to beat itself you know

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Ben Hammond15:06:32

React/Javascript question; I have two React components and I'd like to pass the outer one's props straight through to the inner component; is that possible? like this

function InnerTable(props) {
// create a table
}

function OuterCard(props) {
return (
<Card>
<CardHeader></CardHeader>
<CardBody>
***<InnerTable props />***
</CardBody> 
</Card>
}
kinda thing but how could I make that * line work?

Ben Hammond15:06:06

I could manually unwind the props value and then hard code the props into the Inner Table of course but that doesn't sound like much fun

Ben Hammond15:06:03

am I thinking in clojurescript too much?

Ben Hammond15:06:59

I suppose I can wrap it thus

function OuterCard(props) {
return (
<Card>
<CardHeader></CardHeader>
<CardBody>
<InnerTable outerProps={props} />***
</CardBody> 
</Card>
that`ll be good enough

folcon16:06:09

I think that’s what is for right? Or am I missing something? Found an example [0]:

const {propOne, propTwo, children, ...props} = this.props;
<Component propOne={propOne} propTwo={propTwo} {...props}>
  {children}
</Component>
- [0] https://stackoverflow.com/a/41540059

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Ben Hammond17:06:09

ooh maybe; that ellipsis seems to be for a bunch of things; if this can be one of them then thats great...

Ben Hammond17:06:33

I didn't realise you can mix JSX with ellipsis like that

Ben Hammond17:06:09

that's what I mean

flefik19:06:13

yup that's right <Foo bar="baz"> is just syntactic sugar for React.createElement(Foo, { bar: "baz" }), so you can use ... or anything else that is valid within an Object.

flefik19:06:42

you may or may not need to wrap in {} though

flefik19:06:52

so in a functional component you could just do

(props) => {
return (<Card><InnerTable {...props} /></Card>);
}