clojure-uk 2020-05-11 | Slack Archive

dharrigan04:05:27

Good Morning!

dominicm07:05:33

Morning

mccraigmccraig07:05:39

mawning

jasonbell07:05:43

Morning

thomas07:05:50

morning.... helping the children with their home work at the moment.

Ben Hammond07:05:18

this gave me me (wry) chuckle https://twitter.com/Idontmind64/status/1259732447727620097/photo/2

dominicm08:05:39

People aren't keen on what he said last night then?

Jakob Durstberger08:05:44

The new slogan just doesn’t make sense and I don’t even understand why you would spend any effort on a slogan right now. Also the UK just doesn’t seem to be able to get the amount of infections under control https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/ So yeah, I don’t think people are impressed

dominicm08:05:08

I suppose it is just about starting to go down. Down the mountain indeed.

dharrigan08:05:23

Be alert against something you can't see

dharrigan08:05:44

we're just a few steps from 1984...

dharrigan08:05:25

I suspect people in the street having the virus - although I can't see that they have it (or hear that they have it) - I'm going to dob them in anyway.

dharrigan08:05:48

that's what's going to happen

Ben Hammond08:05:43

the lesson of 1918 is that the second wave will be far bigger than the firstt wave

Jakob Durstberger08:05:49

I am not sure if the second wave of the spanish flu is comparable as the population of so many countries was malnourished and already unhealthy from years of war. I am just really interested if we can figure out why some countries do so well and others don’t. It doesn’t seem to be fully attributable to social distancing and lock downs.

Ben Hammond09:05:16

and contact tracing and testing

Ben Hammond09:05:58

implying its the oblivious spreaders who create most of the problem

Ben Hammond09:05:35

and bearing in mind that effect is two weeks behind cause

rhinocratic09:05:51

Morning.

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mccraigmccraig09:05:13

there are probably further variables @jakob.durstberger e.g. https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.01167

mccraigmccraig09:05:10

and confirmed cases is a very difficult statistic to draw any easy conclusions from, given the continually increasing rate of testing

Jakob Durstberger09:05:28

Oh yea, I was just picking two. The amount of variables is crazy and as Ben Hammond said, you are always ~10 days behind in seeing any change to new policies. The german Virologist Christian Drosten said he thinks this outbreak will be studied for decades

dharrigan09:05:09

b3ta does funny stuff with topical things: https://b3ta.com/

rickmoynihan10:05:31

Gotta say I’m very worried by the governments approach. Telling businesses on a Sunday of all things, that they should go back to work tomorrow “if it it’s safe” is spineless. Nicola Sturgeon should be PM.

rickmoynihan10:05:18

I just wish she wasn’t a Scottish Nationalist.

rhinocratic11:05:56

Indeed - it's back to Herd Immunity, but with plausible deniability.

rhinocratic11:05:25

The message appears to be that employers can force their staff back to work, but if they die then it's their own fault.

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minimal11:05:05

Yup. "running it hot" while pretending not much is changing while we barely have falling case numbers

minimal11:05:28

And encouraging those most likely to die to go back to work https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1259776656362868736

folcon12:05:07